Underground City of The Snake Kingdom In the Henry Mountains?

There are many unbelievable stories circulating the internet these days, stories of Egyptians coming to America, giant birds thought to be a surviving Pterodactyl, Giant Humans of the past ancient underground cities in the western regions of North America and even giant snakes... As a skeptic, some of these things I do not currently believe and some I do, but I assure you if I do or do not, I have very good reason to or not to...

One of those things I do believe in is giant snakes... Why? Because we have a record of them, not only of ancient times but in modern times as well. But what is considered a giant snake? In the story I am going to tell shortly, it is mentioned within the story an estimate of “well over 28 feet” and “over 35 feet,” Is this possible? Of course it is... I read all the time of stories of giants of the past giant men, not snakes, I have heard of reports and some quite credible of 7 to 9 foot giants, truth be known, these are not giants, in fact neither are those reported of 15 feet tall. Giant to us indeed, but truly not giants, the giants of the past were much larger... I will leave it at that.

Have you ever wondered why various species were much larger in the past? So have I, but have you ever wondered why wasn't man? Probably not because scientist have clearly explained to us that these species lived millions of years ago and man wasn't here... do you believe them? I don't, but Enough of that...

The largest snake recorded and made available to the people for their knowledge, was 42 feet, said to have lived some “60 million” years ago so that you will never question it and estimated to have been a one ton “behemoth dubbed Titanoboa,” Sounds scary doesn't it? and said to be a “descendant”, but I think they meant ancestor of the boa. The largest living snake in these times, some “60 million” years later, was recorded at 25 feet and 350 pounds however there is a conflicting story of an Anaconda measuring 27 feet and weighing in at 500 pounds... science, of all people believe the Anaconda “can” reach up to 30 feet. I guess I just wanted you to know this before I tell the following story.

Having slept a time or two and had a beer, some years ago I and some friends were siting around the camp fire, when one of my friends who had remained some what quiet through a similar story just told... and after, that silence that generally follows a good story, broke. The man I speak of is one of the most credible individuals I know. He said, over in the Henry's there is an ancient underground city, said by the tribal people to have been large enough to house 50,000 people at one time. He proceeded to tell how he and his two friends had came to know of it, and how they found it. There are some who might read this who need to know, he never told us where it was, he was a man of his word and if he gave his word not to show anyone, he would never do so. He did however described a tunnel they had found, of some 80 feet which lead to very large stone doors. He describe the curious working of the doors and explained that at the beginning of this tunnel one would start out in ankle deep water, but by the time you reach the 9 foot tall stone doors, you would be up to your armpits in water. One of us asked why he hadn't opened the stone doors, his answer made perfect sense, water was leaking through and from the tops of the doors. He said he sat there for an hour in water, just studying the doors, trying to come up with a way to get access. Later after our trip he showed evidence of what he had told us, evidence of which I did not have to see, as I knew he was being nothing but truthful.

Not long after my friend had broke his silence, I sent him the following story, although he would not say how it was related to what he had told, only that it was... 

The story below was published in about 2010, as the story went.... 

More than twelve years ago, an elderly Piute Indian lady and a male friend – both from Price, Utah – were chasing down a Piute story from the lady’s youth. The lady’s grandfather had said there was an underground city, and gold mines, under the Henry Mountains in Utah, near the former site of what the grandfather described as the “Serpent Temple”. The grandfather had a hand drawn picture of the entrance to the temple – showing giant snakes carved in rock. He claimed the picture was from his family and the temple had been destroyed and buried to hide the site. To shorten the story substantially, in their searches of the mountain, the male claims to have been watching some cattle at a spring near the site and suddenly saw a monstrous snake strike a small under 1 year old calf of say 150+ lbs in size. He estimated the snake to be over 35ft in length. He claimed it knocked the calf over and quickly wrapped around it and he watched fascinated and terrified as it took a rather long period of time to engulf the calf.

Ultimately he claimed to have seen it and other of similar size multiple times, and went so far as to ask the local rancher if he had been losing any calves. The rancher replied rustlers were apparently taking 10 or 12 a year in the area.

The lady claims she was sitting on rock beside the dirt road one day and one came out from a hole in a pile rocks nearby. Terrified, she remained frozen as it raised up to her face height and somewhat opened its mouth so close that she could even smell how foul its breath was. Oddly, the lady, who said she used to capture and eat snakes (especially rattlesnakes) routinely in the mountains in her youth, claimed the snake was like nothing she’d ever seen. She described it’s skin as being leathery, rather than having the scales she was used to seeing. Furthermore its head (“bigger than my head”), had some kind of dorsal ridge down it. After a long moment, it lowered its head and crossed the road at a diagonal, disappearing down the hill on the other side. The tail apparently was on one side of the road as the head reached the other. The lady and the guy claim to have measured the distance at well over 28ft.

I’ve visited the site. No skins, no massive snake scat to be seen. The couple however remained insistent in their stories. They claimed the snakes lived inside the tunnels in the mountain where the temperatures are constant, with plenty of water since the springs came from there. The Piute claims the snakes where put there to protect the site which incidentally is also supposed to contain a chamber with wall lined with gold or gold tablets upon which the history of mankind is written.

If the “snakes” were put there, how come they didn’t spread out? Oddly, that might be the easiest part. The Henry Mountains are literally an oasis in the desert, with water, large numbers of deer and one of the largest buffalo herds in the country. But the area around the mountains is rather inhospitable. It would likely be difficult for a cold-blooded creature (or is it cold blooded?) to travel far.

It’s a fun story. Is it true? I believe the Piute lady is dead now. She and her companion stuck to their story over the several years I talked with them. They said they wanted to prove their story to others.

I to have visited this site many times, it is a very strange yet beautiful place...

What connection does this place have if any to Calakmul and the Snake Dynasty of Kaan (Sky)? Snake Kingdom, or the ancient city of Culiacan? The snake serpent diety of Kukulkan? Is this the same Kaan Columbus was looking for? That's ridiculous, Columbus “accidentally” discovered America, and if you don't think so just ask WIKI.

As it would seem, the two friends of my friend are likely the sons of the “Paiute” woman, but she was likely Ute. She wanted to show the world and prove it, I have the same ideas... however it seems her sons have different ideas... I have made several trips to this place and although I cannot say any of this is true... I feel that it is... I can say there is something very different at the Henry's... It is a feeling I cannot describe, something ancient... it is as if you are constantly being watched... And be warned... you cannot take enough spare tires....

Part 4 (My Take) Hereford Photos

 Once again let me say, I could always be wrong.... that happened once long ago, and then I realized I had made a mistake.... But seriously folks... This is just my take, my current opinion and is based on evidences gathered.... What ever the truth is... is what I seek, keep it fun...

Jesse's Kids? Part 3

 

Jesse and Myra Belle's kids?

I'm not sure exactly where this photo came from but because it was found on the internet at a tintypers web site, I can only presume it came from EBAY... Some collectors of tintype photos really seem to go off the deep end, every photo they have acquired from their ebay experience seems strangely enough, always someone of the great historic past, and if you do not believe them, just ask them. This photo if I recall was presented on the tinners web site as an authentic photo of Jesse, Archie Clemons and Zerelda Mimms who was Jesse's cousin and the wife of Charlie Bigelow, and as I said, if you don't believe it just ask him.

Now I must admit, in my effort I am really no different than the tinner previously described who presented the photo as Jesse and Archie etc.... So... once again, it is my opinion but again based on circumstantial and extenuating evidence. I do not believe this image is Jesse, Frank and such. But I did take notice of the photo for other reasons. If the tinner bought this photo off of ebay then I'd say he might have got down right lucky... because I have reason to believe that these 4 young adults are the children of Jesse James and Myra Maybelle Shirley and these same 4 children may very well be present in the Hereford Photo. These children are presumed to have been born between 1865 and 1875, which would make these children IF in the Hereford Photo, around the ages of 45 to 55 in the Hereford photos.

Here are the 4 faces believed to be Jesse and Myra's children, see if you can find them in the Hereford Photo.

An old Spanish Monument

 In August of 2005, some friends and I were traveling up a well known canyon when I gazed to my left and up high and saw what appeared to be a monument.  We pulled over but not for long as we had some Woolsey Trees to go see... Taking out the binoculars and spotting the suspect  monument, it was quite clear it was indeed a monument, but who built it?... I had my thoughts at the time and suspicions that if it was indeed an authentic monument, what message did it carry? why had none of the so called experts who had spent many years in this area never mentioned it? I wouldn't know the answers to these questions for another 16 years... 

Over the years and driving past this monument many times, each time I would stop and look still wondering... I don't know why but I just never went up to it to see. A few weeks ago we were traveling the same canyon going on a recon mission to investigate a very strange site, once again we stopped and looked... but this time I decided it was time... I knew I wasn't going to hike up to see it so instead I found the roads that lead to a half mile from it just as it was from where I stood, but at least it wasn't a half mile straight up. Not able to find contact information for the land owner, I decided to contact my very loyal friend, Tracy Gardner, who has a drone. Today Tracy went to the site but not to fly the drone, I should have known better, he makes it look as simple as it use to be for me... Today I finally got my pictures and although still uncertain of a few things, I'm pretty sure it is an authentic Spanish era monument and it does indeed carry a message which points to the Red Ledges some 4 leagues away. Gee, I wonder what could be there? 

Anyway... thank you Tracy for all you do.

Who Are They PART TWO

 

Who Are They

Part Two

Before I get started on identifying the individuals in the previous article Hereford photo, let me say this, regardless of what my opinion is in all of this, it is just my opinion. That is not say that my opinion is not based on some form of evidence which is largely circumstantial evidence surrounding events about the first man mentioned in the previous article. This post and conclusions will seem to be purely based upon photo likeness which I can only respond with, it is definitely at least a small if not significant part. So... skeptics bite your tongue, as I am certain you could not definitively contradict my conclusion with anything any more factual that I will give here. And keep in mind, there is so much more to this and the conclusions I will make. Regardless, Enjoy.

I am going to start with the second man mentioned in the first article... His name is barely known to even the civil war history buffs, let alone as the father of the first man. The second mans name is Lieutenant Colonel George Strother James. Below are two of the only photos of him that I know of that exists. Mr. James is known as the man who fired the shot of the Civil War, that was heard around the world, to be more accurate he is the man who gave the order, and it was likely a signal shot.

Lieutenant Colonel George S James

Can you find him in the Hereford Photo?

He would be about 92 when the photo was taken.

History has it that this man was mortally wounded and having died at age 34 on February 2^nd 1862, however this is not the case. George was married to a lovely lady known only to a few as Molly (Elizabeth?) Dalton.

Molly Dalton

Can you find her in the Hereford Photo? (In her Late 80's)

By the time of his supposed death, George and Molly had 3 sons, a daughter and possibly 2 more children. The boys were from oldest down, John, Frank, and Jesse with a purported twin sister to Jesse, Rebecca Younger, wife of Cole Younger.

By now I am certain you know the name of the suspect first man, but lets talk about his incredible wife, Myra Maybelle Shirley, NOT TO BE CONFUSED with Bell Star who was a horse thief. The confusion began with a name in which Myra Belle had for a short time used as an alias spy name, Belle Starr, and long before the woman who stepped into her shoes, Belle Starr the 2nd ever used the name, no one really knows who she was. I sometime jokingly wonder if it wasn't Myra Maybelle who shot her...

Myra Maybelle Shirley

Can you find her in the Hereford Photo? (Age about 72)

I doubt the public will ever know what this woman went through all in the name of defending the Republic.

This brings us the the first man who most everyone has been taught to believe... was a Murderin, thoughtless, blood thirsty, womanizing, brutal thief of a man... and yes, Jesse James was some of those things, and he was a whole lot more. Jesse was a primary operative spy for the Confederate underground, his main function was the weaken at every opportunity, the forces of the North who were funded and backed by the elite families of England. Jesse's most favorite people during his life were the African people, the Indian people most particularly the Sioux Indians, and the Mexican people. In case you have not figured it out yet, the south wasn't fighting that war to keep their slaves, they were fighting to keep the freedoms of America and they failed, if you doubt this of which of you is not in bondage and captivity?

Jesse Woodson James in his late 30's

Can you find Jesse in the Hereford Photos at about age 73

Jesse, his Wife, his Father and Mother were true hero's regardless of the loss to the world Bankers. Jesse's best friend and body guard through all of that war and even unto death was John Trammell, and ESCAPED Black Slave.

Jesse and 3 of his long time friends, John Trammel (Left)

Lucky Johnson, and Gene Robertson (Right)

John was once known among the bare knuckle fighters as the Black Cobra. The whole slave issue was designed to gain the support of the American people in that Civil war, and it worked, the majority fell for it hook line and sinker. The Victors in the war overthrew our Constitution rendering is useless and have converted the America people into merchandise to be bought and sold... They incorporated in 1871 and now, you swear allegiance to their flag created out of their law, Title 4 USC 1. You have no Constitutionally Protected rights, as your fathers before you and of your own doing through ignorance, bartered them away in exchange for civil rights which are not rights at all and which can be taken and are nothing more than corporate rule. Most refer to this foreign and domestic enemy as the Fed.

Jesse was a gentile man, but ruthless when needed, he was kind and a good friend to those who loved our country, but had no tolerance of those even out of ignorance who supported the bankers overthrow. He was a womanizer yes, but had to be, he had several wives and every child of his he knew of and those not his he took care of them, even if they never knew he was their father, he even took care of the children of some of the men he killed such as the fall guy Charlie Bigelow's kids and his widow who went down in history as Jesse's wife and she never talked. Jesse's aunt however who went down in history as his mother, just couldn't keep her mouth shut and in later years Jesse killed her. He cared for the poor and the widow and often provided for them, he was a very wealthy man aside from the wealth of the Confederacy which is staggering and has never been realized.

The Confederacy had nothing to do with Lincolns assassination, but the powers that be wanted you to believe they did. Jesse later in years even helped Abe Lincoln's cousin William S Lincoln, who knew well and good the Confederacy wasn't responsible, track down and let him witness the assassination of John Wilkes Booth, killing two birds with one stone. Now with Lincoln dead and the hired man dead, those responsible could let down their guard.

William Simpson Lincoln

After the war Jesse and a majority of the Confederate underground moved to Texas. Jesse lived out his many lives still weakening the enemy when ever he could, and taking advantage of them for his own personal wealth. Two of his most prominent and successful alias's were (Senator) William A. Clark and Captain Harrison Trow. As far as public showings William A. Clark kept a low profile with only his double Carl O. Clark, making public showings, most of Clark's dealings were managed from Hereford Texas where he showed himself publicly as the elegant Captain Harrison Trow.

In 1925 just 5 years after the Hereford photo above was taken, with himself getting older along with his Wife Myra Belle also getting older and posing many years as Missouri Ann Jesse, Interesting name by the way... I can only surmise that Jesse had a gut full of trying to manage so many alias's and who knows maybe someone was getting close to discovering the truth. But on February 24^th Jesse did what he had done many times in the past and staged again his own death, first the death of Captain Harrison Trow, and 6 days later, the death of William A Clark. Jesse at this time was 83 years of age. I often wondered if Jesse's kids knew who he really was... but being suspect of 4 of Jesse and Myra's kids being in the Hereford Photo, I don't know how they could not know.

Who Are They?

Who are They?

Part One

In the above photo taken in Hereford Texas in the year 1920, there is at least 4 significantly important individuals, unknown heroes from the Civil War era, two men and two women, can you find them and identify them?

SOME of you know the answers, please don't spoil the fun... yes, to me it is fun and I thrive on it, there is nothing more invigorating than discovering the truth. “And the Truth will set you free!”

It will be years if not decades before the American society comes to the knowledge of the actual events of the Civil war. As it would seem some are beginning to figure it out and apparently, the powers that be seem to be threatened by that, I can't imagine why... I would elaborate on this but feel it would go unread and without any concern where in if one would delve into it and learn the truth of it, they would be shocked... if they cared at all...

For the same previous given reason is also why I will not at this time reveal the 4 individuals... If I were to tell it would create disbelief and scoff. “Some” from the world of the academics simply could not even consider it and why? Because the curriculum has so carefully taught or should I say indoctrinated the student, they dare not question... I don't claim to understand but it is so well taught, many loose the ability to think otherwise or for themselves....

Now... Concerning the 4 individuals....

The first man and most significant is most always portrayed as a thoughtless, ruthless, blood thirsty, murdering, scoundrel and thief, and he was some of those things yet he was so much more and is one of Americas greatest bona fide yet unrecognized heroes. A man who truly fought for the freedoms of the Republic and against the worst enemy we have ever had, still have and will ever have, However, “Great will be the fall!”

The second man is the father of the first, yet you will not find this in history and I'll bet you can't guess why?... Remember the Victor writes the history and it is the Victor of that war who is now trying to erase that history, they don't want you knowing these men were heroes nor why. This man is known for his first act in the Civil war and because of orthodox history, (the Victor), most would never hold this man in any kind of regard, they would instead hold up and build statues hailing another man, Americas first Caesar and first president to committed treason against the Republic and from his own mouth admitted his destruction of the once free Republic.

The first woman is the first mention mans wife. This was no common woman, this woman has done more in defense of the Republic than any other woman since, except her mother in law. Behind every great man, is an exceptional women...

The second woman is the mother of the first man mentioned and yes, the wife of the 2^nd man. Like her daughter in law, this woman has done more in defense of the Republic, along with her daughter in law.

It isn't the propaganda or what history has fed the public for the last 160 years that the Victor is trying to hide from you, it is the truth of what that war was really about that they are trying to get rid of, because there are many who are awakening and beginning to see the truth, the victors worst enemy is NOT truth, it is growing knowledge of the truth. They know that a lie can never stand against exposed truth.

Perhaps in a few days I will identify the four individuals and maybe four others in this photo from 1920.

Reddotero Francisco Iberio

How many of my friends, especially those friends in Mexico, knows where this is? If you think you know great! but how would you like to know for sure, and would be willing to go and search for the red stone to verify if it is still there? You would need to contact the land owner to get permission to seek for treasure, however you do not need to seek ;-). I am considering giving this location away to any QUALIFIED individual, a financial partner if you will, preferably someone who wishes hands on participation as it is so much more involved. There is some planning that needs to be done. Thats all for now... contact me...

¿Cuántos de mis amigos, especialmente los amigos de México, saben dónde es esto? Si crees que sabes dónde está, ¡genial! pero, ¿cómo le gustaría saberlo con certeza? ¿Está dispuesto a ir a buscar la piedra roja para verificar si todavía está allí? Debería ponerse en contacto con el propietario de la tierra para obtener permiso para buscar un tesoro. Estoy considerando regalar esta ubicación a cualquier persona CUALIFICADA. Hay algo de planificación que debe hacerse. Eso es todo por ahora, contáctame.

(NOT the actual document)

You have to tell some people.... ;-)

A fair English translation....

I, Francisco Iberio, captain of the bandits: that I lead from the year 1802 to 1829, I say that when you arrive at “cerro de los metates”, look for a entrance, which is facing towards the “hacienda del ojo” , and withdrawn from the hill, 415 steps, and has an entrance with a slide on (or in) the hill, this hill is a point that is very well known by all, well, this path is the one I had to enter with the atajos that I took, on this “camino de Belmontes”  was one of the ones I looked after, and the road that passes through the large door, that ran wide and “despedrado” ?? that I also looked after, and passing by the “corral de la palmita” that has the door towards “porfias” that is now there, we buried 300 Spanish soldiers, as well as the carriers.  Well, a fellow team member Castrellon wanted these 2 paths that I looked after because he was realizing all the atajos that I was taking.   And so that there not be any differences between Castrellon and me; we raffled them and I always won.  So, coming down the road that I told you about before, and walk about 2 and a half leguas, on that path/road is a bulwark between the 2 paths. 

There is a “planadita”, well, you stand where the bulwark is, facing north, and count 400 steps always facing north, and where the 400 steps take you, there is the corral (or yard), it’s in the middle of the plateaus, the pen’s gate is facing north, the ascent to the door is kind of like a slide and to reach the door, it’s high.  Once inside, find on the left-hand side a cave that is covered with red stone, uncover it and there you’ll find a grand treasure, that won’t run out for your entire life because I warn you that there are pure bars and sheets that are there, they are silver, plus 35 cases with gold, but I warn you that the money that is buried on the left side, and the gold is not sealed, and there is a holy Crucifix on top of where the sheets are entrenched and when removing this treasure, say a mass in my name.   When we left the “brena” heading southbound, the fellow Castrellon and I went back to our homes, he was from Aguascalientes and I from San Luis Potosi.  When I arrived to my home, I saw that my family had died and the following year I remarried and 2 years later I became ill.  Knowing I would never leave my bed, I sent him to talk to my friend Femin Zaragoza to give him the derrotero along with the map.

Taken from the original the 17^th of September of the year 1839

The Arizona Romans

From the book, The Mysterious West 1969

Further reading concerning Romans in America can be found in the following book:

 Calalus

 A Roman Jewish Colony in America, from the Time of Charlemagne Through Alfred the Great

By Cyclone Covey

Professor at Wake Forest University

Now Available on Amazon

 

 

Thank You!

 Just a Thank you for all the positive comments... I am sorry I do not respond to them nor make them public, I wish I had time to... I am very grateful to know that some people are reading and waking up...

Tuscoro

Discovery of A lost Ancient City of the West?

 

It has been many years since I first imagined discovering one of the now termed “mythical” 7 cities of Cibola said to exist at one time situated around the fabled Lake Copalla. I still wonder even though we are told by the so called experts that it is just a myth, but is it? And if not, who built these cities? Perhaps these experts could get a better idea if they would just read the Aztec record instead of books written about them or books written by authors who wrote books about books about them… the regurgitation process is out of hand.

Over the years many evidences have come into play which today clearly tells me the cities most likely actually exist, or at least use to. If you have not followed my research you may find this as speculative, however the geologic evidence, archaeological, geographic evidence and historic narratives, ignored or recognized tell a different story weighing far greater than the mythical label placed upon the whole idea and the effort of silencing the past for seeming unknown reasons. Why does it matter?

Regardless, today I have decided to give the readers an update of my efforts to lend credence to the existence of this so called myth. To somewhat bring the reader up to speed it would be good to read or re-read the two part article:

 Finding the Legendary Lake Copala and theSeven Cities of Gold  

Of the 7 Cities in question, 3 are believed to have been possibly located, or so the evidence alludes. However today I wish to talk of one such location which came to my attention 4 maybe 5 years ago. One day, in plotting my chosen locations of the 7 cities, which I will withhold at this time, I found situated in a relatively flat valley, an unusual formation which did not make sense as to why it existed. A group of what geologist would call drumlins, and of course every one with any knowledge of drumlins knows that these are created by glaciations, from of course, the “last” ice age, I am being sarcastic...

 

Now I know this sounds bold and speculative, but I say this with great confidence knowing the evidence often ignored, stands behind me… but… In order to have a “last ice age” you would have to have a first one… and I stand on this saying there never has been an ice “age.” However this is not to say that in approximately 2700 BC in the days of Peleg when “the earth divided,” that the events that occurred at this time caused a cataclysmic event instantly freezing the North and South in addition to hurling anything not nailed down, to be casted violently across the ground. If you find this hard to believe, then research the "frozen muck" in Alaska which was ground zero of a violent pole shift where in it is found the animals due to some violent action where shredded and ripped apart. Mammoths were found to have bluebells not only in their stomachs, but in their mouths, keep in mind, biologists claim Blue Bells have been “introduced” into North America, are they suggesting they did not exist in the time of the mammoth? One other location giving evidence ignored is the coast of South America specifically the Atacama Desert in Chili. This would have been ground zero at the equator as a result of centrifugal force, where in at this pole shift in 2700 BC a massive wave struck the coast and striping it of all vegetation and soil containing the nutrients needing for plant life. This wave would have been so powerful and high that it managed to breach the inland some 400 miles and as high as 12000 feet, sound ridiculous? Now read the academic views as to why this area has no vegetation, and if you have eyes to see, you will find it as humorous as I did. They have taken the results of this event, and turned it into the cause.. how ingenious…

End of rant, Back to the cities…

 

The needed immovable object

According to geologists drumlins are created as a result of glacial flow but in order for it to begin the process of building the drumlin, the flow must encounter an immovable object such as a natural upheaval cliff formation or large rock such as a ledge or the like. Although possible, I am having a difficult time in imagining a natural upheaval a mile and a half long having 5 peaks. Never would it be considered as a possibility being man made structures causing these 5 peaks serving as immovable objects, I mean… after all there wasn’t any people 14 thousand years ago at the end of the last ice age capable of building such structures right? I propose this catastrophic event resulting in these drumlins was in fact large volumes of water and not ice. In addition to these drumlins, behind them and all the way to the mountain wherein this flow came from is one of the largest alluvial fan boulder fields around. The boulders are found to be from football size to as large as a Volkswagen.

Drumlins RED, Alluvial Fan YELLOW

In the book of Isaiah we find,

 

41:18 I will open rivers in high places, and fountains in the midst of the valleys: I will make the wilderness a pool of water, and the dry land springs of water.

 

Is this an event that occurred in the past or at some point in the future from the time it was written? Has it happened before? Has it happened many times? Where has it happened? And will it again happen?

Water source BLUE

I propose an event of the rivers opening in high places occurred at this location at either the events of the destruction at the time of the crucifixion or an event which I am certain occurred in about 900 AD, an event which I propose is responsible for the Colorado Plateau uplift and the draining and or dispersion of Lake Copala and Lake Bonneville. Due to narrative historic evidences and physical evidences, I would lean more towards the 900 AD event. This is not to say however that another unknown event could have occurred before or after 900 AD.

 With the many evidences gathered regarding this hypothesis, it strongly suggest that the immovable objects under the drumlins are likely that of stone structures of buildings by some previous unknown culture. I am caused to believe the structures were either of the Roman Colonies, Welsh, Indo Greeks or other who came here and established themselves in 775 AD and to about 1050 AD. According to the text found on the Tucson Lead Crosses, in 900 AD was a massive earthquake. The city or cities could have also been as a result of those who here came about 100 BC as a result of the sacking of India under the thumb of Alexander the Great in 326 BC. There is another possible culture which the Aztec and Toltec derive who are no doubt a mixture of the previous mention, and who first arrived on this continent about 600 BC being of Jewish or Hebrew decent.

 

Pyramid Immovable Object

If this hypothesis has any merit and it is found through excavation to be true, no doubt the architecture and artifacts will show who was responsible. This of course would be subject to keeping it as far away from Smithsonian as possible. It is well known and documented as to the many mound cities that existed at this place and other places nearby, one of the most profound was in Parowan Utah where in was found among all the other mounds, a large two tier platform mound just like that of Cahokia, yet not as large. However I am fairly certain the immovable objects are not mounds, although it remains as a possibility.

But before we get all excited about this possible discovery, much work needs to be done first in order to determine if in fact any man made structures exist under the drumlins using ground sonar. At the impact side of the drumlins the alluvial fan of boulders are estimated at 100 to 150 feet deep down to the original valley floor. The peaks of the drumlins reach 100 to 150 feet above the alluvial fan of boulders, this means that from the top of the peaks to the original valley floor, would be approximately 200 feet minimum to the taller peak[s], 300 feet. Just for size comparison, The Sun Pyramid of Teotihuacan measure 216 feet high with a base of 760 feet square at the base which would fit nicely under any of the 3 largest drumlins.  

I propose that under these drumlins are highly likely a former lost city built by some unknown culture, and if I am wrong, I’m wrong, simple as that. This is my objective to prove otherwise, and I am not concerned as it would be equally difficult for archaeologist to prove otherwise, their own theory of these drumlins being created by a non existent glacier.

Using an exact size overlay shown below is the city of Teotihuacan with a few added structures to show for size comparison.

As always, the lack of support is what stands in the way, but imagine what a magnificent find this would be, if in fact it proved to be one of the lost cities of Cibola, or that of some other unknown culture. There is so much more to tell and maybe I am being to overzealous in this and perhaps not enough. If I were to tell the people in the valley where in this is located what I believe is there, even after showing the evidences, they would be the first to crucify me... my faith in people has greatly diminished...

What do you think? should I just spill the beans knowing the flack I will catch? What I am more concerned with is Smithsonian stepping in using their many tentacles and preventing any further exploration... maybe turn the whole area into a animal sanctuary, maybe a desert turtle preserve or just a rare grass regrowth area.... 

If you know of any possible resource to investigate this further and after further consideration, please contact me regarding full disclosure of location but more importantly the evidences not included here will be presented… In my opinion the first and smartest action would be to buy the property which is privately owned, but only after verification of man made structures.  Perhaps next year I will be able to share another seeming remarkable discovery of the same nature made not long ago… The difference is, it has already been determined as being of Greek origin and a physical structure is present, however circumstances stands in the way as always.

 

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