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Tuesday, March 28, 2023

Evidences of Welsh, Greek and Roman Occupation here in the West. Part TWO


More Evidence 

If you have been following, you may have in the recent past read my two part articles called If it Quacks Like A Roman, in writing this article it serves its most important (to me) purpose, it helps me to put it all into order and help me understand it. I invite the reader to re-read the article at this time…

If it Quacks Like A Roman Part One   

If it Quacks Like A Roman Part Two    

The history is littered with accounts of members of exploration parties stemming from the times of first encounters of meeting the tribal people of this continent, incidents that took place not only here in the north but in the south as well wherein a Welsh member of the party familiar with the Welsh tongue, recognized the broken dialect of their own language when they encountered various tribes and understood what they we saying. The academics have for the most part dismissed this as mistaken, and taken action to quash this preposterous idea… others with more of an open mind blame it upon the travels of Prince Madoc Son of the King of Wales Owain ap Grufydd of Gwynedd, and this may be in a small way true, but it has its origins from a much earlier people… and ancestors of Prince Madoc/Madog.

Lately I have been drawn to my royal ancestry as some of you have notice, I was compelled as a result of trying to put the pieces of the puzzle together which I am still trying to do. I felt compelled to create an ancestry chart of my ancestors in the Welsh linage of my Royal Ancestry. In doing so it enabled me to bring things more clearly into focus by way of a timeline of events in comparison with the history of the Roman Empire, Welsh history, The Kings of Britain and events, suddenly a picture began to unfold, a picture I am still not sure of and still trying to validate or disprove to myself. 

In studying the plausibility of Roman presence here in the Americas, the evidences and the story told in the Tucson Lead Cross artifacts, I found corresponding history written regarding the “Western” Roman Empire, “the Fall” of the Western Roman Empire near 476 and the eventual Rise of the “Western” Roman Empire around 800 AD and I am beginning to see that it had nothing to do with Spain, France, Wales etc… in the old world, but is directly corresponding if not explicitly referring to THIS Continent and that THIS is the “WESTERN Roman Empire” they are referring to! Stew on that for a bit, I know I am still, even after the realization a few months ago! 

Also consider the time frame corresponding with the mysterious burning of the Imperial Library of Constantinople, not to mention the Great library of Alexandria? Both sides of the players had motives, it could have been burned from within and blame placed on those it was intended to be hidden from AFTER important incriminating contents had been removed. However it is the time frame, motivation and contents correlating to the WESTERN Roman Empire and the history of it that was no doubt documented that seems to be the motive. Why is it that Rome spent so much time and effort seemingly trying to destroy the Holy bloodline of the Welsh and the French Kings?

Topiltzin Quetzalcoatl Painting by

Diego Rivera


Some time ago I was researching the Toltec Kings comparing dates and time lines in the hypothesis written by the Catholic Jew, I found a rendition of Topiltzn Quetzalcoatl painted by a well know Mexican Painter Diego Rivera (1886-1957). Rivera, an Indigenous Mexican who painted Murals all over Mexico and in the United States, His Mural painted at the Palacio Nacional de Mexico of one of the most popular Toltec Kings, Topiltzin (of) Quetzalcoatl has always puzzled me. In his famous mural it is shown Quetzalcoatl flying above, with Topiltzin sitting among his subjects, If Topiltzin was the King of the Toltec and of the brown skin Toltec, why is Topiltzin pale skinned and painted looking very much European?


Welsh Genealogy

Now I confess...  I had a little help with this in that I stumbled across an article regarding the genealogy of the Roman Colonies spoken of in text of an article about the Tucson Lead Crosses. It that appeared several years ago written by an apparent sharp individual from Australia referred to as the Catholic Jew and whom I might add is an excellent blogger. All attempts to contact him or discover his source for his comments met with a dead end however, I decided to discontinue trying to find his source and simply challenge his results by giving the benefit of the doubt and presuming them to be true resorting to the test of time. So far, after some years, I can only conclude that whatever his source material, it would seem his source is valid. 

I can’t say for certain as of yet that I know it is correct however it certainly meets no barriers and parallels beautifully, here is the genealogy given according to the Catholic Jew, based on his studies and the Tucson Lead Artifacts inscriptions. (Beginning with Prince Madoc)


1. Prince Madoc ap Owain of Gwynedd

2. King Owain I of Wales (b.1100 d.1170)

3. Gryffudd II ap Cynan King of Gwynedd (b.1055 d.1137)

4. Prince Cynan ap Iago the Rhodan (Chunan ben Jacob ha Rhodri)[b.1020 d.1060]married Princess Ragnhild of Dublin

5. King Iago ap Idwal (Jacob ben Israel ha Rhodri)of Gwynedd 1033-1039 [b.990 d.1039] [ younger brother of Mar Isaac ha Nehushtan (Huacmar Quetzalcoatl) of the Toltecs and Prince Lancelin of Calalus (Lain Calvo of Castile)]married Sussanah of Barcelona

6. King Israel VII ha Nehushtan of Rhoda and Calalus 999-1018 Priest- King of the Toltecs 977-999 King of Gwynedd 1023-1033 (Idwal of WalesTopiltzin Quetzalcoatl of the Toltecs) [b.960 d.1033]married Ximena of Rhoda daughter and heiress of King Israel VI

7. Isaac (Huacmar/ Huetzin) Priest-King of the Toltecs [b.930 d.977] [cousin of Israel VI of Calalus 955-994]

8. Prince Makhir of Calalus (Meurig/ Mixcoatl of the Toltecs/ Americ)Priest-King of the Toltecs [b.900 d.974] [cousin of King Israel V of Rhoda and Calalus 920-955]married Chimalman (Ximena/ Chimena)daughter of Israel IV of Calalus

9. Prince Isaac ha Nehushtan (Quetzalcoatl) of Rhoda Priest-King of the Toltecs [younger brother of King Israel IV of Rhoda and Calalus 883-920] [b.856 d.921]

10. King Israel III Septimus of Rhoda and Calalus (Possibly Gwriad?)[b. 832 d.900] [brother of King Rhodri Mawr of Gwynedd]married Ximena of Auvergne daughter of Makhir Bernard of Auvergne and Septimania [son of Warin of Macon b.779 son of St William of Gellone] and his wife Ava of the Spanish March [daughter of Solomon of the Spanish March]

11. King Israel II Magnarvm (Merfyn/ Mermin/ Merwan/ Makhiri) of Rhoda and Calalus (b.805 d.858) married Nest of Powys daughter of King Cadell

12. King Israel I Guriad ha Makhiri (Magnarvm) of Rhoda and Calalus (b.770 d.852) [brother of St. William Isaac of Gellone (b.755 d.814)] married Atala (Ethyl) daughter of Jacob (Iago) of Gwynedd and Bernicia King of Calalus (779-785) son of Cynan (Chunya) of Gwynedd

13. Mar Nehemiah Theodorus ha Makhiri (Deitrich/Namon) [b. 735 d.790] Ruler of Ripaurien, Saxony, Bavaria (779-790) and King of Calalus (775- 779) Jewish King of Septimania (765-775)

14. Makhir Todros ben Yehuda (Amorai/ Theodoric)[b. 710 d.765] Western Exilarch and Jewish King of Septimania


(At the end of this article I will list the actual genealogy

as it is recorded in the genealogy data bases)


It is important to understand regarding the legends of Quetzalcoatl, that he is the God who came to visit them about 2000 years ago promising to return, any designation aside from this such as Huacamar or Topiltzin Quetzalcoatl, is a designation of Topiltzin OF Quetzalcoatl, a representative or descendant of Quetzalcoatl, one with the authority of or the birth right to act instead of… You will see at the end why I have pointed this out.

In researching the Welsh or Briton names in the above genealogy given it become very apparent that at least these names or those who it represents was in fact very real people. In searching the history of these individuals it would seem a pattern emerges. This pattern is what appears to be an all-out effort to suppress the whole idea that anyone prior to Columbus is completely ridiculous. Many of the articles about the above mentioned individuals often contain phrases like, “not much is known about their early life” I wonder why?


More suggestive evidence 

There are several names that is associated in the text of the Tucson Lead Crosses that if understood what they are, certainly raises an eyebrow. Such as Narbonne and Calalus” (Calicuas) mentioned specifically.

The word of Septentrionalis caught my attention on the old 15th through 17th century maps along with Septem. Septentrionalis being a designation of the continent itself with Septimania being a designation of this land similar to “Western United States” that you might find on today’s maps and Septem. 

IF the references to Septimania are not of this continent, then it could only be references to Septimania which is said to have existed in Southern France. The wiki writers tell an interesting tale as they so smoothly regurgitate the victor’s history. 

Septimania (French: Septimanie, IPA: [sɛptimani]; Occitan: Septimània, IPA: [septiˈmanjɔ]; Catalan: Septimània, IPA: [səptiˈmaniə]) is a historical region in modern-day south of France. It referred to the western part of the Roman province of Gallia Narbonensis that passed to the control of the Visigoths in 462, when Septimania was ceded to their kingTheodoric II. Under the Visigoths it was known as simply Gallia or Narbonensis. Septimania territory roughly corresponds with the former administrative region of Languedoc-Roussillon that merged into the new administrative region of Occitanie. Septimania passed briefly to the Emirate of Córdoba, which had been expanding from the south during the eighth century before its subsequent conquest by the Franks, who by the end of the ninth century termed it Gothia or the Gothic March (Marca Gothica). 

Septimania became a march of the Carolingian Empire and then West Francia down to the thirteenth century, though it was culturally and politically autonomous from northern France based central royal government. The region was under the influence of the people from the count territories of Toulouse, Provence, and ancient County of Barcelona. It was part of the wider cultural and linguistic region comprising the southern third of France known as Occitania. This area was finally brought under effective control of the French kings in the early 13th century as a result of the Albigensian Crusade after which it was assigned governors. 

Sounds convincing, but why can’t I find ANY old map from the period of its supposed existence in southern France? All we find is cartographers of the present back 100 years with renditions that seem to come from… yes… nowhere. IF anyone can find me an OLD Credible map showing the existence of Septimania in southern France, or documentation indisputably showing by description, I would be very grateful and would be happy to change my profoundly subjective views. When I say old I mean, I would settle for a map from the era of its final supposed existence, and old historic record from original source that definitively describes what and where Septimania was.


A So called "old Map from 1902

Clearly it would seem that the Cartographers of the Netherlands were most informed of the very names in which the Tucson Artifacts seem to be about, why the Netherlands? The Netherlands is where the Frankish People expanded into after the “Fall of the Western Roman Empire.” These people were of the Carolingian Dynasty and who were they? 

The Carolingian dynasty (known variously as the Carlovingians, Carolingus, Carolings or Karlings) was a Frankish noble family founded by Charles Martel with origins in the Arnulfing and Pippinid clans of the 7th century AD. The dynasty consolidated its power in the 8th century, eventually making the offices of mayor of the palace and dux et princeps Francorum hereditary, and becoming the de facto rulers of the Franks as the real powers behind the Merovingian throne. In 751 the Merovingian dynasty which had ruled the Germanic Franks was overthrown with the consent of the Papacy and the aristocracy, and a Carolingian Pepin the Short was crowned King of the Franks. The Carolingian dynasty reached its peak in 800 with the crowning of Charlemagne as the first Emperor of Romans in the West in over three centuries. His death in 814 began an extended period of fragmentation of the Carolingian empire and decline that would eventually lead to the evolution of the Kingdom of France and the Holy Roman Empire.

This is such an intertwined mess I am still trying to sort it out…

So how did the Welsh get into the mess? I’m still trying to figure that out but I suspect its beginnings had to do with one particular individual who was Prince Madoc’s 18th Great Grandfather, King Arthur himself.

(See Genealogy at the end) 

King Arthur is viewed in the indoctrinated world as “Mythical,” a “fictional Character”, tell that to the Welsh. King Arthur was known for his antics in a place called Avalon, a pronunciation that would no doubt come out of the mouth of those who speak a language containing no Z. This is but a small part as to why I am certain that Avlon or Afflon is one and the same as Aztlan, Plato’s Atlan-tis and even Havilah of the Graden of Eden. 

One only need study the continuous conflicts in the early Roman Empire days, as they continuously rammed their religion of a hell fire breathing God down the peoples throat, with their “accept or die” motto. I once asked one of my devote Mexican/Aztec Catholic friends, “would you ever accept or join a religion that was forced upon you especially under the threat of death?

He was very quick to respond with “oh, absolutely not” To which I responded, “Please remind me how you and the whole of Mexico became Catholic?” I have never seen anyone with such a look of confusion and realization at one time. 

I noticed on the old 16th century maps the name Calicuas, I had wondered if the original text on the Lead Crosses could be translated to “Calicuas or Calalus. I sent this information to those of the credentials and confirm my suspicions, as it would seem cuas is the plural Europeanized version of koa which means tribe or people, Cali-cuas being Cali tribe or people. If you have not followed this research that will mean nothing.


AFTER the “Fall of the Western Roman Empire 

About 300 years after “the fall of the Western Roman Empire (about 476 AD) something fueled the fire once again. In approximately 775 AD the Romans under Theodorus or Theodoric I of Narbonne and was given the title of King of the Jews, and again the Romans set sail for Calalus, (Calicuas) or what I believe was the actual Western Roman Empire. I’m not sure exactly what it was that caused this round of exploration and colonization. 

“Theodoric I or Makir of Narbonne and Septimania was received by Charlemagne and was given the title "King of the Jews". His ancestry is possibly one of the greatest lineages of antiquity. Theodoric, claimed descent not only from the Merovingian Kings, but lineal descent from King David himself. Both the king and the Pope acknowledged this pedigree. Also called Makhir Natronai ben Habibi the Resh Galuta. Also called Rabbi Makir ha-David. Also called Dietrich. "The evidence is sketchy and muddled at this distance, but a persistent account of Theodoric I has it that he was the Jewish Exilarch in Narbonne, and that he succeeded in establishing a regionally autonomous Jewish-led state around Narbonne. Makhir has been identified as being Makhir Natronai, Resh Galuta in Baghdad, ousted from that position by a cousin in 771. If true, it would be a matter of considerable interest; the Baghdad Exilarchs were reputed to be lineal descendants of the ancient Hebrew King Daviid. What is fairly clear is that Septimania achieved an independent position in this era by some means or other, with the status of a Duchy or even possibly a Kingdom." He was sent by Haroun Al-Rashid, Calif of Baghdad to Charlemagne, King of the West at his request, who wanted to establish in Europe a middle class based on a Jewish nucleus between 786 and 793.”[1]

Although his decent from King David was possible, I would question Theodoric I’s claims, I suspect this had something to do with the reason that the Roman Jews suddenly seeking to return to the sacred land but needed a worthy ruler. I would suspect the Welsh decided it was time to follow in the footsteps of their ancient descendant, King Arthur. But it is more plausible that the Roman Jews returned to reclaim what had been lost a few hundred years earlier, and perhaps the Welsh just happened to show up or were in part of the group?.. What happened during the first colonization (100 BC to about 476 AD) that caused the Romans who arrived in this place as Romans only to return to Rome as Roman “Jews”? I have my suspicions… 

According to the Catholic Jew, he writes; 

In the fifth century Calalus was part of the Revived Western Empire of King Arthur a descendant of the Swan Knights. By the eighth century due to admixture with the American Indians the state had reverted to paganism. Nehemiah Theodorus led an expedition in 775 to return Calalus to Jewish and Roman rule. He conquered the ancient city of Rhoda and the Jewish law was restored. After 4 years in 779 AD Nehemiah Theodorus left Calalus for his kingdom in France which he had left in the hands of his brother Guillame de Gellone (Mar Nathan Kalonymus)[b.739 d.793 killed in the battle of Carcasonne). He then appointed a British Davidic Prince Jacob as the Jewish King of Calalus as regent for his young son Israel who was married to Jacob’s daughter. Jacob was a descendant of King Arthur as well as the Jewish Royal family of Bernicia. Jacob was the leader of the British Jewish settlers in Calalus. The Roman Jewish Settlers of Calalus in the 8th century were made up of two main groups – the Latin Jewish group from the Frankish Empire and the British Jewish group from the British Isles. 

As it would seem by 880 AD Roman Jewish Rule took a turn when King Israel III (Brother of Rhodri Mawr, Possibly Gwriad Mawr) liberated the Toltec which didn’t go over so well with the Roman leadership as he was exiled. It would seem the majority of the Toltec followed him to central Mexico and he became their leader carrying properly the title of Quetzalcoatl, as he actually was a descendant of Quetzalcoatl, who is believed to be none other than Jesus of Nazareth. Israel III was likely following Jewish Tradition/belief in honoring the Sabbatical Year, every 7 years, a debt, even one of servitude, is forgiven.

In 844 Merfyn Frych left Wales for Septimania with his other children, leaving his son Mawr Jacob ha Rhodri as King of Gwynedd. He was known as Rhodri Mawr. Israel Merfyn returned to Calalus (which was called Manaan in Wales) and succeeded his father as Israel II. Israel III Septimus became King of Calalus in 858 at the age of 26. He fought many battles and later he granted the conquered pagan Tolteczas independence in 880. He was deposed by the Sanhedrin of Calalus and his son Israel IV replaced him and Israel III was banished. Israel IV began a campaign of war against the Tolteczas that would lead to the eventual end of the colony in the 10th century. The descendants of Israel III Septimus’ son Isaac became the Priest-Kings of the Toltecs who moved south to Mexico. They abolished the human sacrifices of the natives but they were restored (c.1018) after the Rhodans left America. 

The actual genealogy of Prince Madoc is as follows, although there are other linages that can be followed through mother or father, this one that I chose reveals certain applicable interesting individuals.


Prince Madoc 1134-?

King Of Gwynedd Owain ap Gruffydd 1125-1170

Gruffydd ap Cynan 1055-1137

Cynan ap Iago 1035- ?

Iago ap Idwal ?-1039 (Suspect Topiltzin Quetzalcoatl)

Idwal ap Elisedd 975-?

Elisedd ap Meurig 945-? (Suspect Mixcoatl of the Toltec)

Meurig ap Idwal Foel 917-986

King of Gwynedd Iwal Foe lap Anararwd 883-942

King of the Britons Anarawd ap Rhodri 863-?

King Rhodri Mawr “The Great” ap Merfyn 820-878 (Brother of King of Rhoda and Septimania, Israel III and 1st leader of the liberated Toltec)

King of Gwynedd Merfyn Frych ap Grwiad 817-843 (Suspect Israel II)

King of Ynys Manaw Grwiad ap Elidir 755- (Suspect Israel I)

Cynan Dindaethwy ap Rhodri 738-816

Rhodri ap Idwal 690-754 (Molwynog “The Bald and Grey”)

Idwal Ywrch ap Cadwaladr 655-712

Cadwaladr Fendigaid ap Cadwallon 615-682

King Cadwallon ap Cadfan 591-634

King Cadfan ap Iago 569-625 - Wife Acha Afendreg Ddu ferch Cynan 575-660

King of Powys Cynan Garwyn 544-610 – Wife Gwenwynwyn Dalriada of Scotland 540-?

King Arthur Meriadoc King of Avalon 460-542

King of the Britons Uther Pendragon 440-520

King of Prydien Constintine Custennin Gradion 390-443

King of Bretagne Selyfan Salomon I 360-446

Gradion Mawr Erban 330-434

Cynan (Conanus) Meriadoc ap Gereint 305-367

Caradoc Gereint ap Eyndd ?-352

Eynudd Ednyfed Bretagne 250-328

King of the Silires Cwrrig FawGoric 215-250

Cwrrig Mawr ap Meirchion 130-215

Meirchion Fawr Filwr ap Owain, WIFE Unknown Ferch Aminadab

Aminadab ben Joshua 136-187

Grail King Joshua ben Joseph 84-159

Joseph Rama Theo Grail Child 30-99 (Was this THEE Josephus?)

Jesus the Christ & WIFE Mary Magdalene of the House of David

Sunday, March 26, 2023

Evidences of Welsh, Greek and Roman Occupation here in the West. Part ONE


The following 2 part article is in part an old 2 part article, revised and added upon… originally posted April 18th 2019.

As the narrative goes Christopher Columbus sailed the 7 seas and discovered America! Forget about all the people here when he arrived in the Bahamas then off to Cuba never setting foot on American soil… 

Evidences have grown so much more over the years despite the efforts of Smithsonian to continue preaching the old narrative and control discovery… Why would they do this? 

This is a question I have pondered much and the answers I have come up with are many but at this time, suffice it to say, the more you know concerning the Americas true history, the more control you have over those who are still trying to control you to this day. 

Evidence is clear that many have visited the Americas even as far back as the days of King Hyrum. Actual successful Colonization’s Include people from India (Approximately 1200 BC), Hebrew from Jerusalem (600 BC) and although it was only for a few hundred years we must include the Greek (100 BC to 400 AD) and Romans (775 AD to 1050 AD) and among these latter visitors we have between and intermingled with the Greeks and Romans, the Welsh (Near 500 AD to 1300 AD) and Portuguese. Visitations to the Americas Include two known events of Chinese, one in 100 BC and another in 400 AD, others known as Celtic, Phoenicians, Vikings, Nights Templar and Order of Christ are rumored. Vikings however is a made up name to accommodate those who worked against the Romans, after all how could they get you to fear and hate their enemy if they didn’t give them a scary intimidating name… they knew you could put together who the real bad guy was if you knew the Vikings were likely of Welsh, Portuguese and no doubt the Scots, enemies of Rome. The European conquest they used the word Pirates and in the civil war, rebels and in the conquest of Mexico Banditos, it’s a word and mind game people! called labeling like conspiracy theorist! 

Many of you have heard the rumors of Prince Madoc visiting the Americas in the 1300’s, but lets start with Prince Madoc’s 18th direct great grandfather King Arthur. But first… lets talk about the apple… yes the fruit

Isle of Avalon or Apple Trees

What “they” want you to know

But apples were here prior to good o’l Coloumbus


What an interesting opening line…

“Apples are not native to North America

The question was… “Origin of Apples”

When “they” open their mouth and reveal themselves…


The place the academics credit for the origin of the apple is of the very same people who first inhabited the Americas in about 2400 BC and it is well known they brought with them every sort of seed… and by the way, they came by boat.  However there is other possibilities as to who may have brought apple seed to the Americas, but if you go through life believing everything academics EDUCATE you with and never seek truth, you would have never known of these other possibilities in fact, you wouldn’t care less where the apple came from or the possibilities of previous cultures visiting the Americas.




Etymology of EDUCATE


Now lets talk about the place where King Arthur was traveling to “across the sea” Called the Isle of Afflon (Avalon) literally meaning “Isle of Apple Trees” We can’t have people thinking King Arthur was sailing to the Americas now can we? Obviously apples were here in 500 AD, but notice in the borrowed snippet above, “Greeks Etruscans and Romans Cultivated Apples,” imagine that! In addition, the orthodox mis understanding of the event of Eve eating an apple would imply the possible location of the Garden of Eden as being in the Americas, we can’t have the people thinking that now can we? These reasons may seem trivial but I assure you, these followers of Satan are not stupid, they are very good at causing you to believe what ever they want you to and the majority of the people in general fall for this EDUCATING ring in the nose hook line and sinker. THEY KNOW where the garden was… but not specifically. 

Many of you seekers of truth have heard the stories of Prince Madoc or Madog, the son of Owen ap Grufudd of Gwynedd, King of Wales 1137-1170, and 18th Great Grand son of King Arthur, un-orthodox history tells of Prince Madoc who took sail with several ships in search of nothing more than an adventure…. but there is so much more to this story which we will come to shortly, and after this article, we still will not have even graced a small part nor ventured far enough back to the time of the FIRST colonization’s which have occurred in the past on this continent with the exception of those first Americans, dating back even BEFORE King Solomon sent his friend, Hyrum, King of Tyre to the termed “mythical” place of Ophir. You can read more about this in the Book The Forbidden Histories of the Americas.

Unlike the usual cry of fowl! Hoax! We generally find regarding unpopular history, today we find from the reliable [?] Wiki writers; 

(Notice the choice of word by this Wiki writer which instead of denial, the article is more so apologetic)

The legends of Celtic voyages to America, and settlement there in the twelfth century, led by Madog (or Madoc), son of Owain Gwynedd, prince of Gwynedd, are generally dismissed, although such doubts are not conclusive. The Madog legend attained its greatest prominence during the Elizabethan era when Welsh and English writers used it to bolster British claims in the New World versus those of Spain. The earliest surviving full account of Madoc's voyage, as the first to make the claim that Madoc had come to America, appears in Humphrey Llwyd 1559 Cronica Walliae, an English adaptation of the Brut y Tywysogion.[7] In 1810, John Sevier, the first governor of Tennessee, wrote to his friend Major Amos Stoddard about a conversation he had had in 1782 with the old Cherokee chief Oconostota concerning ancient fortifications built along the Alabama River. 

The chief allegedly told him that the forts had been built by a white people called "Welsh", as protection against the ancestors of the Cherokee, who eventually drove them from the region.[8] Sevier had also written in 1799 of the alleged discovery of six skeletons in brass armor bearing the Welsh coat-of-arms. Thomas S. Hinde claimed that in 1799, six soldiers had been dug up near Jeffersonville, Indiana on the Ohio River with breastplates that contained Welsh coat of arms.[9] It is possible these were the same 6 Sevier referred to, as the number, brass plates and Welsh coat of arms are consistent with both references. Speculation abounds connecting Madog with certain sites, such as Devil's Backbone, located on the Ohio River at Fourteen Mile Creek near Louisville, Kentucky.[10][11] 

8."text of John Sevier's 1810 letter". Freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com. Archived from the original on 13 January 2013. Retrieved 28 August 2017.

 9. The American pioneer: a monthly periodical, devoted to the objects of the Logan Historical Society; or, to collecting and publishing sketches relative to the early settlement and successive improvement of the country, Volume 1 (Google eBook) J. S. Williams., 1842

 10. "DNR: Outdoor Indiana - March/April 2011 - Featured Stories". In.gov. Retrieved 17 March 2015.

 11. "The Madoc legend lives in Southern Indiana: Documentary makers hope to bring pictures to author's work" Curran, Kelly (2009-01-08). News and Tribune, [Jeffersonville, Indiana]. Retrieved 2011-10-16.


Was Madoc simply following in the footsteps of his 18th Great grandfather trying to claim his patrimony? Is this what his other grandfathers were doing? Cynan ap Iago, Iago Idwall, Rhodri Mawr (Makhir, Americ Mixcoatl and priest King of the Toltec)? Hint, this is a story and linage the elite, Romans or Vatican does not want you to know about. 

There is much more to this story but one needs to be careful with stories such as this, legends have a way of growing and added to until the truth of the matter is so badly tainted, it becomes unbelievable and near unrecognizable.

The above WIKI article although certainly not definitive of facts, I thought was well presented although I always love the choice of words used by the writers clearly demonstrating their belief in order to maintain their prized credibility. 

What I am about to tell you is also short of the facts, and is presented as a plausibility, based on observation, common sense, and legend but not short of VERY compelling evidences. I would like also to point out to the serious searches of truth, when researching plausible truths, or unpopular hypothesis, always seek out the “original source material” rather than books about ancient history, written by someone 5 to 10 years ago, whose own bibliography lists only books written by some guy who wrote his book 5 to 10 years prior to the first and so on… The results of this type of research results in controlled conclusion to fit the orthodox belief, which is in my estimation suppressed or falsified history intentionally or not with a seeming agenda to keep the sheep from the truth. Understanding the magnitude of this seeming agenda, would shock most. The short of this statement is, there are some, who have almost always known the truth of this continent, and that truth is the very reasons why it is kept from you.

Not so Ancient Explorations and Colonization’s 

Prince Madoc was at the near tail end of those who have frequented the Americas in the past, only to have been with or followed by Nights Templar and Order of Christ just a few hundred years later, followed by the French and the Spanish. Prince Madoc is at the near end of the Genealogical line of those who have come long before him. Madoc was following a very old trail and knew for the most part, exactly what he was looking for and hoping to accomplish, and in comparison, to those he preceded, he failed miserably yet in another sense likely found great success. Do we really think that the Templar and/or Madoc were kicking up there heals, gathering in the golden wealth of the world and chasing around the world all for the sake of an old wooden cup of a carpenter and used by his own 31st Great Grandfather?

WHO HEREIN KNOWS, the true mission of the Templar of which they appear to have strayed from as a result of their demise. ALL people whom destruction comes upon, brings it upon themselves by first falling into iniquity. Those who humbled themselves escaped to Portugal and soon became the new organization known as the Order of Christ. It is my belief that they set aside their iniquity, humbled themselves and continued with their previous vowed quest and succeeded. Oak Island was just a stopping point. 

The true seekers of knowledge in their quest for historical truth are familiar with the ancient battles and conquests of the Islamic Nations over Christian Nation, there has always been opposition and the battles rage on even today, and history repeats itself because the lust for power does not change. Oppositions even exist within the two opposites. The so called “Holy” Roman Empire has this same ancient history in its quest to control the Christian and others who refused to be controlled, they who gave themselves this title were not so Holy and set themselves up as the rightful rulers of the world, the opposition being within. They have done everything within their power to destroy the true linage of those with the rightful authority to rule. The bottom line here is, if a religion has a history of, or has or is being forced upon you or any of your ancestors, you have found Satan’s workshop and his followers rarely know it. Our own semi current history and foundation of the formation of the United States as we know it now is an example, prior to the conquest most do not understand, it was known after 1776 as the united states of America of the Free Republic (proper upper and lower case). After the conquest in 1862 it is now known as the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, or United States of America, the ingenious name of the Corporation, in order to keep you in the dark yet under control.


The Tucson Lead Artifact Discovery of 1924 

This Holy Roman Empire was not any less deviant and active in their quest to control others in ancient times and an example of this can be found intertwined with orthodox history and artifacts discovered September 13th 1924 By Charles E. Manier of Tucson Arizona. 

Of course like all controversial discoveries, it wasn’t long before someone claiming authority jumps in the middle crying hoax, the internet is full of the same regurgitated opinion of Professor Frank H Fowler, I won’t go into all of the anti-truth garbage now found on the internet, the skeptic hands work as well as mine…  However I will give the actual consensus by those who actually have the credentials to comment in this excerpt written by Tara Macisaac of The Epic Times concerning  Medieval Scholar Donald N. Yates Ph. D, and his recent book, the Tucson ArtifactsAn Album of Photography.


Tucson Artifacts Suggest Romans Made It to the

New World in the 8th Century 



April 9, 2016 Updated: April 10, 2016  

Medieval scholar Donald Yates, Ph.D., is shedding new light on controversial artifacts found near Tucson, Ariz., in the 1920s. 

At least 32 cast-lead artifacts, many of them crosses, were excavated from compacted soil in the Santa Cruz River valley outside Tucson. The make of the artifacts and their inscriptions suggest a colony of the Holy Roman Empire existed in the area in 8th or 9th century A.D., Yates said. 

Contact between the Old World and the New World is conventionally held to have first occurred with Viking expeditions around the 10th century A.D. Suggestions of contact before this date—and the Tucson artifacts are not the only artifacts hailed as indications this was the case—have long been dismissed by mainstream historians. 

Holy Roman Hoax? 

The Tucson artifacts have been decried as fake. But Yates says no one with the proper credentials to assess them has called them a hoax. 

On the contrary, Byron Cummings, who was the founder of the classics program and archaeology at the University of Arizona; and Neil Judd, who headed the Smithsonian’s excavations at Chaco Canyon, believed them genuine.

“To make that decision, you have to have credentials in certain areas—in Medieval Latin and paleography (the study of ancient manuscripts) and epigraphy, which is the study of inscriptions,” Yates said. 

“I’m a classicist, I have a Ph.D. in classical studies specializing in Medieval Latin and paleography. I have a whole row of publications in that very, very tiny specialized area.”

He said another uniquely qualified person to study the artifacts was Wake Forest University Professor Cyclone Covey in the 1970s. “His position was always … [that] there’s nothing phony about them,” Yates said. 

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Hill Forts “Narbo” Narbonne

Among those most known for using Hill Forts in the past, Romans, Britons especially in Wales. The reason I bring up Hill forts is that I am amazed that by doing a search on Hill Forts, not one word is mentioned regarding the hundreds of Hill Forts here in the west, especially in Arizona. One Particular site near Payson Arizona, on two separate occasions the archaeologists involved were asked by a friend, if the Indians had built the fort now in ruins?  Adamantly the answer was NO… Was it built by the Spanish? He asked, Again the answer was and adamant NO. Well then who built them… after a short pause, WE DON’T KNOW, and with that answer, he knew that they did indeed know who built them but were restrained to tell.

I had no idea how many of these hill top locations there was until I had acquired the 15 Minute Map collection of Arizona. I have also learned that not all of them have been discovered.


These hill top fortifications are generally different shapes and sizes, and often we can find an old mining operation nearby. The walls can be up to 8 feet or more and 4 feet thick. These were NOT built by Pueblo people unless it was by slave labor under Roman Rule.