Who Really Discovered America? Part TWO

The Imperial Library of Constantinople

The Imperial Library of Constantinople would have been the equivalency to the Greek and Romans, of our Library of Congress with just a touch of the Smithsonian ideals… Borrowed from the great Wiki, we find…

The Imperial Library of Constantinople, in the capital city of the Byzantine Empire, [Where the Parrot was named 1000 years before it was known] was the last of the great libraries of the ancient world. Long after the destruction of the Great Library of Alexandria and the other ancient libraries, it preserved the knowledge of the ancient Greeks and Romans for almost 1,000 years. A series of unintentional fires over the years and wartime damage, including the raids of the Fourth Crusade in 1204, impacted the building itself and its contents. The library continued in substantial form until the city of Constantinople was conquered by the Ottoman Empire [Muslims] on 29 May 1453 when the library's considerable surviving contents were destroyed or lost. [or Relocated Prior to Intentionally setting fire to it] The library was founded by Constantius II [second Son of Constantine the Great] (reigned 337–361 AD) who established a Scriptorium so that the surviving works of Greek literature could be copied for preservation. The Emperor Valens in 372 employed four Greek and three Latin calligraphers. The majority of Greek classics known today are known through Byzantine copies originating from the Imperial Library of Constantinople.

In ancient Greece the written word and most literature was transcribed onto papyrus. As the papyrus began to deteriorate, there was a movement to transfer the reading material from papyrus to parchment as did Constantine the Great, around the 4th century, but his movement specifically concerned Holy Scripture. [But more believable, the documents and maps pertaining to the new world discovered in the archives of India and records of expeditions of the last 500 years] Constantine's heir to the throne Constantius II continued this movement. It was his work that culminated in the first Imperial Library of Constantinople. The library is estimated to have contained well over 100,000 volumes of ancient text. The movement was headed by one Themistios, who commanded a group of calligraphers and librarians. [that’s Librarians, not Iberians, Librarians actually existed…]

Over the centuries, several fires in the Library of Constantinople destroyed much of the collection. [Or so it is said] The library was burnt in the year 473 and about 120,000 volumes were lost. However, the attempts of Themistios and Constantius were not fruitless, as some works were saved and recopied and circulated through other texts. Consequently, modern knowledge of Classical Greek literature is greater than would be the case if not for their efforts.

After the fall of Constantinople on 12 April 1204, the library was allegedly destroyed by the Franks and Venetians [Italy] of the Fourth Crusade during the sacking of the city. [This would explain why France was seemingly fallen from the good graces and obviously lacking in their expeditions in the years to come, lacking knowledge of the heart of this new world, yet the Spanish and Portuguese seem to excel, this was an intentional burning after important documents, maps, etc. were removed] Donald Queller notes that while some manuscripts were probably lost in the three fires that ravaged the city during the attack by the crusaders, there is no indication of the continued existence of a formal imperial library at the time and no source mentions lost manuscripts.

While there were many reports of texts surviving into the Ottoman era, no substantive portion of the library has ever been recovered. Professor Carlyle was provided access in 1800 to the Seraglio, the supposed repository of post-Ottoman conquest surviving texts, but no texts from the Imperial Library were located. A notable exception is the Archimedes Palimpsest, that surfaced in 1840, was translated in 1915 and was unaccountably found in a private collection and sold in 1998. [Imagine that, what are the odds?]

If I could I would look in the Archives of Seville and Madrid not to mention and most likely the Vatican, but this is when the ancient old denial tactics of the modern Smithsonian come into play… “What Maps and exploration documents from 100 BC to 1000 AD?”

Why would I suspect the Vatican? Well let’s just say in those times and even today, they seem to be the inspiration for the Smithsonian and their hide, destroy and deny tactics.

Now I may not have all the details and may even be off a bit or even a lot for that matter, and I am certain the delusionist would jump on board to work hard to defuse this concept in the name of diffusion, but it seems to me that at the time of the sacking of the city of Constantinople, a majority of the records were moved away with France along with Italy playing along, the records likely made their way to the Vatican, despite their differences, other than the Muslins who was going to wage war on the Vatican?

The primary records and maps and the real history of the Roman Empire, the Greek, Indo Greek, and knowledge of the lands the many divisions of power coveted in this medieval times, would be safe to a large degree in Italy under the Catholic eye. If you were not in the good graces of the Holy Roman Emperors and those who controlled the information contained within you would not have access. What makes it so difficult to put this all together is the lack of information other than what has been passed down, it all seems to follow where the leading crown and Catholic rule was at the time or the old adage, follow the money..

Fall of the Western Empire of Rome

The “Fall of the Western Empire of Rome” near 500 AD, does not necessarily mean what you may think? The historians would have you thinking that this was at a time where in control of what is now Spain, France and even Italy was lost, but the West went much further west than any one supposed. The true west in this appellation of Western Empire was across the west sea, the Americas. After the Rule of the Muslims, 775AD of the period of Septimania the West rose again quietly. For the next 200 plus years the Romans are establish again in Calalus (Calicuas).

In the late 15^th Century Spain was clearly in better relations with Rome as per the history suggests, this would explain why France seemed to target the upper eastern coast Iceland/Greenland approach to the Americas, using much older documents, whereas the Spanish went nearly straight for the heart of all that was coveted in the new world in Mexico and pushing North. Clearly both parties were operating on different documents or from different time frames.

 In 218 BC the Romans invaded the Iberian peninsula, which later became the Roman province of Hispania (which later evolved into "España", the Spanish word for Spain). The Romans introduced the Latin language, the ancestor of both modern-day Spanish and the Italian). The Iberian peninsula remained under Roman rule for over 600 years, until the collapse of the Western-Roman Empire. [Approx. 500 AD]

In the Early modern period, [1494] until the 18th century, southern and insular Italy came under Spanish control, having been previously a domain of the Crown of Aragon.

The Renaissance Period

1494 is an interesting date for sure, but what was it that caused a series of renaissance outbreaks at the time? What was it that brought on the jealousy of France and causing King Charles the VIII of France to suddenly invade the Italian peninsula and occupied the Kingdom of Naples with the poor excuse of “on the ground of a dynastic claim” a NEAR 250 Year old issue? Maybe I didn't understand this… According to the wise old WIKI, it is said that “An Italic League that ensured peace in the peninsula for 50 years had collapsed in 1492 with the death of Lorenzo De Medici, key figure in the bloc and ruler of Florence.” His son Piero the Unfortunate takes over his father’s position. It’s just my opinion but I think if you look a tad bit closer, you might find a coincidental reason that Charles kicked up his heals…

Lorenzo De Medici I think had more responsibility that what wiki implies, I think it was his responsibility to ensure equalization on current historic events, but his luck ran out when he died in April of 1492. As it would seem, a fantastic event soon took place based upon a sharing of documents and maps, Columbus is reported as to having discovered, or should I say RE-discovered the former Western Roman Empire interests! Columbus returns and informs Spain of the news in early 1493. Was this top secret information? Was it supposed to have been shared among the participants of the Renaissance period? I don’t know but it would seem to me that King Charles VIII was not happy about something, and he sets out for Italy NOT because his great great grandpa and then some, Charles the 1st got his butt kicked some 250 years earlier losing the Isle of Sicily and his control over it as wiki tells is the reason on one page but tells another conflicting story on another page... but he heads to Florence where Piero di Lorenzo de' Medici lives, the son of the former Lorenzo de' Medici, you know, the new ruler in Florence and keeper of the peace? But why would King Charles go to him? Why Florence? It would seem there is another individual (Tosconelli) living in Florence at the time who was sending Columbus letters telling him certain privy information regarding a shorter route to the Americas! I wonder where Paolo dal Pozzo Toscanelli the astrologer gleaned his information from.

Wiki says: When Charles arrives in Florence...

Piero attempted to stay neutral, but this was unacceptable to Charles, who intended to invade Tuscany. Piero attempted to mount a resistance, but received little support from members of Florentine elites who had fallen under the influence of the fanatical Dominican priest Girolamo Savonarola; even his cousins defected to Charles's side.

Piero quickly gave up as Charles's army neared Florence and surrendered the chief fortresses of Tuscany to the invading army, giving Charles everything he demanded.

I’m left wondering what it was that King Charles VIII of the French demanded. No matter Charles apparently got what he wanted and the French soon put together their own Explorations to the new world. It would seem however Piero gave older information based on the route the French took rather than the route sent to Columbus from Toscanelli.

Charles VIII died in 1498 taking with him what he knew, and it would be another 25 plus years before the French was able to get into the game.

What else do the maps show?

As evidence in support of the French being singled out on updated information not only based upon the route they chose 20 some odd years after, but one such incident in history sticks out for me. The French and Italy had their ups and downs for some time, I’m sure this slowed them up a bit too. If one takes a look at all the early maps of the Americas one can see the lack of information regarding certain geographic areas, especially here in the west, it seems the French had “the lack of” information, case in point, the French Moll Map.

What exactly inspire Herman Moll a late 1600’s early 1700’s Cartographer and engraver we may never know, but the one map that catches my attention is his 1715 map wherein he incorporates the Baron Lahontan’s map of Lahontan’s account of the Long River, however there are two editions, in one version he uses Lahontan’s seeming poor rendition of the Lake at the head of this Long River, the other Moll uses what appears to be very nice a rendition from unknown origins. Without going back to read his account, if memory serves me, Lahontan claims the Indians somewhere near the Missouri and Mississippi river junction told him of this large lake at the head of this Long River and about the people who lived around it. This no doubt is the same Lake the Spanish wrote of several times over and depicted on their maps with what I would call great accuracy, but how would I know this if none of them including Lahontan never found this elusive lake?

Moll himself states on the map “A great part of this map is taken from original draughts of Mr. Blackmore, the ingenious Mr. Berisford, Captain Nairn and others never before published” What other maps was he talking about? The image he uses for the lake at the end of this long river which Lahontan never made it to, is a near perfect rendition of the intended lake at its higher elevations. How would I know this? We’ll get to that. But the point here is that it is clear to me that he was using older information that could only have come from maps or information with origins prior to about 900 AD which is likely the last time the lake was seen at this higher level reveling its very identifiable arm or bay to the east.

SEE FINDING THE LEGENDARY LAKE COPALA

Now what I am about to tell you is one of those things which I have kept back in most of my writings and it is concerning this lake and the Long River. It is virtually unknown and I know no other who has heard this nor considered it. To explain myself would require going back over nearly all of my writings, if you have not followed them then you are welcome to, if you have and have not picked up on the details yet, I do apologize for writing so tight lipped in the past.

The reason I have taken notice of Lahontan’s Long River story is that the Indians could not have told him about this lake as he claimed they did, Lahontan was clearly carrying information dating back prior to 900 AD. I say this because, prior to 900 AD back to the time of the Crucifixion and possibly earlier, the lake in which Scientist claim is 33 Million years old referred to as Lake Uinta, Takes the appearance of how it would have looked in its earliest times, some even say it existed 50 Million years ago. However looking at this rendition of this lake of which there is very little information regarding it, you likely would likely not consider it as a candidate of the elusive Lake Copala. This lake existed 2000 years ago and likely earlier until about 900 AD when a very large earthquake hit the Utah area, this is likely the earthquake responsible for what geologists call the Colorado Plateau uplift.

Despite what geologist will tell you pertaining to these Colorado Mountains, “at least” the northern parts, did not exist in the days of lake Copala’s early days, it drained in two effluents, one to the south now regarded as the Green River and eventually joining the Colorado River, and it drained to the East and was at that time the head waters of what is now the Missouri River. At this early point of the Lakes Existence is the only time it would have taken upon the appearance shown in Herman Molls map, where did he get this from? In those days it was a beautiful lush and tropical area. There is one other little secret, in these days when the river drained to the east out of the Uinta Basin, the river was known by the indigenous as Sidon, from this lake and all the way to the Gulf Coast. Sidon was the primary river of which fed the lower portion of Mississippi River, it was the predominant river. Today we see the Mississippi all the way north as the main river as by all rights it now is…

In about 900 AD there was an uplift of which geologist say 20 million years ago,  it lifted the near entire state of Utah which is consider the Colorado Plateau. This event cut off a large part of the source waters that fed this enormous lake, not to mention sent a wall of water south carving out another 1000 feet of the Grand Canyon. At least the Northern parts of Colorado rose up and cut off the head drainage of the upper regions of what was known in BC times as Sidon. The Missouri was no longer the primary feed of the lower portion of today’s Mississippi river. The altering of the course of the river is plain to see even today, East and North East of St. Louis. The river today flows to the east of Saint Louis but on the west of East St. Louis, before this, the river flowed on the east side of East St. Louis with its east bank at Caseyville. There was a well know ancient city known by certain circles in the days of Sidon, known to exist on the west side of this once great river, today its ruins are on the east side which might explain why they have not yet found it.

After this great event of 900 AD and the dust settled, the once beautiful Lake, surrounded by 7 Cities now in ruin, was all but gone. Over the next 100 years what was once a lush beautiful tropic environment, began its transformation to high country desert.

Why is it I seem so confident of this hypothesis? Because I took the time to consider what others would not let their mind set venture beyond. Despite the flawed Radio Carbon Dating System and those who believe the Uinta Mountains were once covered in an ice sheet from not only an Ice age, but a second one. This lake did not exist 50 million years ago, not even 33 million years ago, not even 1 million years ago. The Uinta Mountains didn’t exist even 5000 years ago.

Again, who discovered America? It sure wasn’t Columbus and the evidences show this land was known in the old world by some, as far back as King David if not earlier. Atlan, Atlan-tis, Avalon, Aztlan, think about it. Just you wait till I write about Shambala… I’ll bet those who took the time to read this is now wondering where did all that water come from let alone, where did it go? but don’t you worry none little buckaroo, it is going to happen again… Isaiah 41:18

Who Really Discovered America? Part ONE

Forward

Many years ago when I first contemplated this particular subject, I recall as I read through the many documents/books pertaining to Columbus coming to America including his own translated Journals, something just wasn’t right, call it a gut feeling which is how all of my theories have started, many of which I have taken to the point of high probability even proven beyond a doubt, making it factual to at least myself.

The following topic of Columbus discovering America or did he discover America has long been proven to me through research that he most certainly did not. However the question has come to this topic, Did Columbus “Accidentally” RE-discover what had already been discovered hundreds or even thousands of year prior and was very well known by the European Royalty?

The other question that has come as a result of these efforts is, what is it specifically that causes certain groups to obscure this information and keep it from the general public, an open and obvious act which seems to have begun in the mid 1800’s.

As of yesterday I felt confident I had enough information to begin this write-up, but by the end of the day and with my meticulous research tactics and findings, at the end of the day, I was ready to scrap the project due to seeming correct documented evidences, in fact this morning I decided or felt compelled to pick up on another research project pertaining to the ancient Geographic’s of the Yucatan Peninsula, when I stumbled upon something that offset my reasons for near giving up  yesterday, funny how things work, It is things such as this that tells me I am on the right path… I need to pay more attention to my gut feelings…

Smithsonian, established on August 10, 1846

"for the increase and diffusion of knowledge,"

I believe that Smithsonian started out with a good and noble cause, but when E. G. Squire and E. H. Davis took over, they changed that motto to “for the increase of the delusion of knowledge”

The Research…

When I write an article it is usually based upon a long period of study concerning the very topic of the article or a closely related topic. As a habit however, I do like to get the orthodox thinking side of it all just prior to writing an article, and a simple search of the internet will clearly show the many who seem to regurgitate each other’s opinions and usually based upon the regurgitation of some Smithsonian puppet. Each of you should try this, go to your favorite browser search window and type “Who Discovered America” After reading many of the articles you will quickly see what I mean. The point being, after reading the many perspectives are you really any wiser? I for one have found that rather than sifting through the garbage, I can get my answers as to what the orthodox world believes by simply going to Wiki…  I for one really don’t care who the people think discovered America, It would seem in the race between Columbus, Leif Eriksson, and the Chinese, Leif is slowly taking the lead, but I have some terrible news for all of them….

If there is one thing all perspectives can agree upon, when each of the claimed discoverers made their landing, from shore, someone was peeking through the bushes at them. Why is it we take the inhabitants obviously occupying the Americas longer than these glory mongers family names have existed, and remove them from the very status of being a man? Are we placing them in the same category as the animals discovered on this land when whomever arrived? NONE OF THEM discovered America!

Before I end this rant, try this, go to your choice of browsers And type in “History of the Americas, Wiki” “Voyages of Christopher Columbus Wiki” or any related choice of words, and you will find what appears to be a very well put together article of presumed facts, now scroll to the bottom where you will find a very impressive list of references, 30 or more, now look at the dates of these references of which you will find, not one written before 1900, in fact most are written within the last 20 years! And almost NEVER will you find among the references, the original source material for the subject at hand…  In fact you can research any of the books listed in those references, obtain a copy and also in that book find an impressive list of references, and they too will be a list of books written within the last 20 years of that books publication! The point being is, those who write our wiki articles and the like writers, are  regurgitating what has already been regurgitated many times over, I seriously doubt that any of the referenced writers in the wiki articles nor those who contributed to the articles, have ever themselves read the original source material for the topic! This period of our history I call, of course, the Regurgitation Period.

Did Columbus discover America?

Let’s start with who didn’t discover America, Columbus, and regardless of what the many writers have regurgitated, I am not convinced that Columbus did not know where he was going and what he was looking for. I am not convinced he thought he was looking for the Indies as in below Japan and China. Did he “accidentally” find America? This part of the now orthodox belief came in during what I call the delusion or indoctrination period. This period began after the formation of Smithsonian and peaked around 1900, and lives on to this day. This is a period in which many translations of old documents took place, you see, now that the English speaking people can now read these old Latin, Spanish etc… documents, those who wish to keep their little secrets now have to take this newly available knowledge and tell us new readers what the writer[s] were “actually” saying… because they couldn’t have possibly meant what they said! I just assume they figured we were just too stupid to understand.  I think I’ll stick to original source material…

Someday perhaps I will go into the many reasons why I say Columbus likely knew not only where he was going but what he was looking for, but one only need read his Journal and letters to see but only if you have a broad perspective of past and present events. In the many exploration documents when you read the many that do exists, you begin to see patterns. One such pattern is whenever they encountered something new, something they have not seen before, a new tree, a fruit, vegetable or animal, they describe it as best they could, smell, appearance, apparent usage etc… and compare to some existing thing in a short commentary. An example of this would be the discovery or first time it had been seen by Europeans on the 4th day of November 1492, is the Sweet Potato, the Batata or what is described in one of the more credible translations, The people have plenty of roots called zanahorias, (Yams or Sweet Potato’s) with a smell like chesnuts ; or in another example wherein the translator removes th word zanahorias and inserts the nonexistent word of “mames” (Carrots) when the written word is clearly zanahorias from the presumed original text why do they do this? The point being here is that Columbus and those with him, had no idea what these zanahorias were and offered commentary to describe what they were seeing for the first time.

The opposition to this little occurrence is they day after they arrived at this new found land. One translator again purposely replaces the obvious word calabazas (Pumpkins) with the word calabashes (Gourdes) and also mentioned in this 13th of October entry is Papagayos (Parrot) but in both cases, there is no commentary nor a description given and why? Because these two items mentioned were well known by Columbus and his expedition team, but how could this be if the Pumpkin and Parrot were not known until after the Europeans discovered America? How is it, an entry is made the very day the parrot was first seen using the name which according to the etymology derives from Byzantine Greek from the Medieval period. Papagas, meaning Parrot, a bird which would not be known for another 1000 years?

Another curious mention and apparent attempt to deter you from the truth is a mention of Gran Can and the translators lead you to believe this is a reference to the Great Khan of China and one even goes a step further suggesting Kublia Khan, a Chinese emperor. However no word was used implying “Kublia,” except maybe “Cami” found later in the document. Had there been or not, I would have and do suspected the Maya city Culiacan or the serpent deity, Kukulkan, or the Kan Dynasty of the Maya, the Snake Kings, something our earlier excusists did not know about…

There are many statements within the documents that could sway the thinking one way or the other, but before I am convinced, I would like to hear some explanations as to why Columbus or those with him had previous knowledge of Parrots and Pumpkins.

 The Re-Constructed Map of Toscanelli sent to Columbus?

I am not sure what to make of the controversial letters from Paolo dal Pozzo Toscanelli to Columbus prior to his voyage which many delusionists presume was very instrumental in his agenda. I have not yet decided what was intended but I am certain the delusionists had their hands in it… It is said that the map sent to Columbus was destroyed, yet on the internet floats a supposed reconstructed map, how do you reconstruct that which was destroyed? Who added the names?

From one of the letters to Columbus from Toscanelli… (Concerning the voyage)

…But you will not be able to understand it thoroughly except with experience or discussion, as I have had most fully, and good and true information of mighty men and of great learning, who have come from the said regions here to the Court of Rome, and of other merchants who have long trafficked in those parts, men of great authority.

Who could he possibly be talking about? I can’t help but reflect to the many Kings of authority who on their crusades, came to the Americas such as the Roman Colonies of 700 AD to about 1000 AD. I can’t help but wonder about the Indo Greeks not long after they sacked India and pilferage their sacred libraries and discovering their maps and their charted course who coincidentally came to the Americas in about 100 BC after said sacking, all according to the information given on the now pronounced hoax artifacts of the Tucson Lead Crosses, how convenient.

My wife finds the following in the The History of Grufydd ap Cynan 1883 by Arthur

Jones concerning Prince Cynan listed # 4 in the genealogy of the Tucson Lead Crosses…

Cynan may have died fairly soon after the birth of their son Gruffydd, as the 13^th century History of Gruffydd ap Cynan details Cynan's ancestry but omits him from its account of Gruffydd's youth. Instead, Gruffydd's mother tells him about his father and the patrimony he should claim across the sea.

I wonder what this Patrimony was, and across which sea? This was around 1020 A.D. Do you recall the words shown on the Granata Nova Map, Septem (Seven) ciuitatum (cities) and Patria? (Native land; home, native city; one's country) Patrimony or Patrimonium (Inheritance) In the case of Prince Cynan ap Iago the Rhodan, would this be his mother telling him about the land of his fathers, the land of the seven cities he is to inherit? Was she suggesting this to be his native land?

Cartographers of the past

When you open up and broaden your perspective concerning the many informational conflicts found in our history, things that never made sense, strange artifacts that just don’t fit, delusionists written conflicts and obvious attempts at explaining what the first authors of America “really meant,” everything starts to fall into place. Things which made no sense, begin to make sense…

What are we to make of the many cities which appeared upon the maps of the 1500’s to 1700’s? Why would dozens of cartographers from different countries and different time frames list cities on their maps that no one ever found? Lakes no one ever made it to? Documenting things on their maps, features they could not have known? How about capturing the very likeness of a highly sought after lake which none of the earliest documented explorers ever found and it just happens to near mirror a supposed very ancient lake but geologist today tell us that it existed 33 Million years ago! How is this possible?

(SEE: Searching For Lake Copala)

So I am to understand that since the last voyage of Columbus in 1503, an Italian Explorer acting in the name of Spain and who was said to be directed by documents from Portuguese, who according to history never made it to the mainland, followed by Juan Ponce de Leon in 1513 who landed in Florida and charted some of the coastline, and few others, that all the details of the maps to shortly follow were created?  Ponce de Leon is also known for searching for the Fountain of Youth, supposedly told to him by the natives, a corrupt version of a true story and likely was intended the waters of eternal life. But of course it is easier for the writers of Wiki or the delusionalist in which their information derives, to just call it a myth rather than to understand where this seeming ridiculous idea came from, besides, It might shed light on the... myth? of the Waters of Mormon located not to far north of where he was supposedly told of it, but we can't have that now can we?

Not to long after Ponce, others made their way into the interior of today’s northern Mexico and New Mexico, Alvar Nuñez Cabeza de Vaca, Don Antonio de Mendoza, Frier Marco de Nica, and a few others, but it is said that Francisco Vázquez de Coronado was the first to reach into the more Northern Territories but this is not true. Coronado even lays claim to naming the city of Granada. Marco de Nica is the first to mention the cities of Tontonteac, Acus (Axa) Ceula and Marata (Todays Pueblo Grande) and I find no mention in the many exploration documents of the other cities noted on the curious earliest maps, Tignus, Chuhuco and the seven unnamed cities surrounding the nonexistent lake Copala, where did these notations come from?

Looking at the two supposed earliest maps, Americae Sive 1562 said to be the first of California, and another, the Mercator map of 1569 of which I find this notation translated from the old Latin…

The second object at which we aimed was to represent the positions and the dimensions of the lands, as well as the distances of places, as much in conformity with very truth as it is possible so to do. To this we have given the greatest care, first by comparing the charts of the Castilians and of the Portuguese with each other, then by comparing them with the greater number of records of voyages both printed and in manuscript. (Gerard Mercator, Nova et Aucta Orbis Terrae descriptio ad Usum Navigantium Emendate Accommodata)

Atlan, Atlan-tis, Avalon, Aztlan, what ever, 

I suppose it just depends on what neck of the woods yer from eh?

What charts of the Castilians and Portuguese? It would seem I have gone way off track from Who discovered America?

So who did discover America?

The answers to all these questions one has to take into consideration the many inconsistencies, legends of the Indigenous, unusual archaeologic discoveries that just don’t fit and always rendered as a hoax, notations on the maps that don’t make sense and from documents of the past, biblical records, and other scriptural records from other religious groups not considered, historic accounts of places mentioned and described by the Mongolian people, people of India, the Mayan, Aztec, Chinese, Greeks, Romans and Hebrews and most important past polar locations due to poles shifts, its effects, the inconsistencies of Radio Carbon Dating. All of these things must be taken into consideration if you want to know the truth of who discovered America and find the true history of this continent. It was well known by the various Royal families of Europe, the Roman Empire, the Welsh, Italians, French, Spanish, Portuguese, India, Hebrew and Chinese as to the existence of this land, and they knew it was a promised land, a choice land, but not all knew why, but the majority did not know the blessing pronounced upon this land by the one true God, and more importantly, the curse.

The answer to this question as to who discovered America, as we know it today is was a people who has developed into what we now know as Altai Mongolians but at a time where in the name was not even known. Their first leader was known by name from two sources, the Mongolian and the pages of the Book of Either, and his name was Moron. His name by ancient tradition remains upon the first places where these people first migrated after leaving the great tower which you will find in the tops of the Altai Mountains, the village of Moron. It takes its name from the Moronguiin Khuree monastery on the banks of the river Delgermoron. Also another village many miles to the east called Mörön, in Khentii. They are the very people who the Mongolian and every Asian culture derive from, and they came here in boats in about 2400 BC, not by a mythical Land Bridge. By their own traditions, this occurred after a catastrophic flood and the fall of a great tower where in the their God confused their tongue, this is preserved in their descendants in the Aztec record. And even they were not the first to set foot on this land.

These people knew the blessing and the curse pronounced upon this land and even though they knew it first hand, even they eventually forgot and brought the curse upon themselves, they were destroyed “as a people” but their DNA is profound and abundant in the west from the very tips of the North of this continent and to the southern tips in South America.

…whoso should possess this land of promise, from that time henceforth and forever, should serve him, the true and only God, or they should be swept off when the fulness of his wrath should come upon them.

Each and every culture who has not kept this condition and served the one true God upon this land, has been destroyed as a people… only a mixture of them remains, preserved in the DNA of the American Native People.

This write up I admit is all over the place, but this is how it is, there is so much to tell and this is such a small part. The subjects that intertwine are broad e difinitive, all having to do with each other. And then I open the can of worms with this…. 

Why is it a Promised Land? What PLACE were they looking for? And what specifically were they looking for? A good read to learn the importance of these questions and of the contents supposedly destroyed, of the Library of Constantinople, (Even from Wiki), would be of great benefit. Understanding its purpose, its contents and how and when it was destroyed lends understanding as well, who was actually responsible for its destruction, The Muslims of the Ottoman Empire or those who knew the importance of keeping its contents from them? Is this concern just as valid today? What survived intentionally and where is it now? Understanding and truth only comes when all things are considered, no matter how controversial.

For further reading to find answers, Read:

1^st Kings Chapter 9:26 to 10:13 and then with Hiram in mind, King of Tyre, a friend to Solomon read at least, Ezekiel 28:12-14, and maybe even a bit more… They say we cannot know nor do we know where this Land of Ophir was, and many of the scholars of the past have made up their minds based on their unwillingness to consider… however there are some who can know, but only because they do consider… This is how it all began among the Royal descendants of King David, the knowledge and the answers to these questions which have been sought after, come from the events of King Solomon and King Hiram, and other sources they never knew.

PART TWO

Finding the Legendary Lake Copala and the Seven Cities of Gold PART 2 ORIGINS of the Legends

Origins of

The Seven Cities Legends
(Original Post 1-15-2016)

America Septentrionalis
Septem cita, Calalus (Cali-cuas)

It was believed and still is by many that the origins of the legends or what they call “Myths” of the 7 Cities would seem to have its beginnings in the Aztec tales, however this may be true regarding the use of the word combination of 7 cities of “Cibola, Ceula or Cevola” Copala, Calicuas and the like, the majority of the early maps have a nice mix of old Latin Nahuatl and occasional Greek words. However the origins of the legends are much older, even older than the Aztec.

Often the academic world is quick to excuse that which does not fit the curriculum of Smithsonian or it simply cannot be explained by them as the mind, as a result of that indoctrination program, would seem to be trapped in a box, whether willingly, unknowingly or under the threat of duress or financial coercion. Some don't like to hear it, but as they say, if it quakes like a duck... as I have said before, Intelligence is not the ability to regurgitate indoctrination....

As said previously in part one, the earliest reference I have found mentioning Copala often associated with Cibola was in the record of Francisco de Ibarra 1554 However in the voyages of John Cabot in 1497 it is clear he had knowledge of the place and it was his intent to find it... Why? It is very clear by other earlier records that the seven cities was a key motivator of expeditions to the new world for many centuries prior, if not all the way back to the days of King Solomon where in his ships headed by Hirum, the Pheonician King of Tyre and he traveled to the place of Ophir, a 3 year journey which was made time and time again, and each time they returned with a boat load of gold and other valuables. It is these incidents of travel that I believe was a primary motivator for many expeditions to follow...

Now although no specific mention of 7 cities is made, there is an unusual occurrence found in the story of Solomon, no sooner than Hirum returns from the land of Ophir, the very next verse in the record of the Bible is of the Queen of Sheba, NOT Seba as some would like to think, it would likely be more accurate to call her the Queen of Shemba or (Shem-Bahla) of the Hindu language, or its English meaning, the Children of Shem. Why would a people refer to themselves as the Children of Shem, unless of course they were at the time living among one of the other two sons of Noah’s descendants such as the Children of Japeth?.. and ON the American continent yet. Can we argue with the known DNA results of the many western tribes, North West, Central and South? The Queen was NOT of Ethiopian origin as some slothful scholars have... surmised. She was of India Origin, and the earliest of the Hindu religion... but not from India. I don't think it coincident the first verse after the return trip of Hiram is mentioned the incident of the Queen of Sheba.

Maya, Queen of Sheba

the Mother of Gautama Buddha

Mayan Queen of Shem Bala?

(Painting From the Caves of Ajanta)

Vajrapani

Son of Buddha,

Son of King Solomon?

(Painting From the Caves of Ajanta)

There are many words in the Yucatan, that bear similar to near exact words found in the Hindu/Tibetan religion and also of origins found in Latin or Greek. I often wonder what the world would say, if they discovered the word Aztecas, the Greek word Asketecos and the English word ascetics are all of the same origin and the words Guatemala and Guatema Buddha’ sharing a same root.

Now Buddha of the Tibetain and Hindu belief is said to have been born in this so called mythical place of Shambahla a place of 7 cities arranged in the form of a Lotus, the place of the Kaliki Kings, Kali or (Cali) the Hindu Goddess and may I reach a bit further in the origins of the term Cali-fornia, the Forest of Kali If the implication made herein has any merit, this would be the earliest reference I am aware of regarding a distant place with 7 cities referenced estimated at about 900 to 600 BC. Are there evidences here in the west that might give credence to this implication? Oh, more than you would believe…

The Chinese also have their so called “Myths” regarding a place in the new world of 7 cities, no surprise there but I would anticipate this being one with "Mythical" Shambhala.

We have all heard the legends of the famous Atlantis first appearing in the writings of Plato, Atlan-tis, suffix -tis, -otis (-της, -ώτης): meaning "of" a place the Greek person's ancestors are from, or From Atlan, [Aztlan, Avlon]. His student Aristotle suggest this place of which Plato spoke as being one and the same with Antillia. Antillia is considered as is all things the academic world can’t figure out as a phantom island, it was also known as an Island of Seven Cities. Antillia has long since been disregarded as a fable, or even excused as the Canary Islands that are the source. Plato and Aristotle wrote of this some time in the 3^rd century BC having its origins from an old Iberian legend.

Now we have the legends of King Aurthur and his legendary Island of Avalon  (/ˈævəˌlɒn/; Welsh: probably from afal, meaning "apple") [of which I would disagree, simply because the word Avalon is not of Welsh origin, but is their pronunciation of Aztlan] is a legendary island featured in the Arthurian legend. It first appears in Geoffrey of Monmouth's 1136AD pseudohistorical account Historia Regum Britanniae ("The History of the Kings of Britain") as the place where King Arthur's sword Excalibur was forged and later where Arthur was taken to recover from his wounds after the Battle of Camlann. King Arthur is said to have lived in the late 5th and early 6th centuries AD.

Although I do not recall a reference to 7 cities in the Arthurian legend, I can not help but notice the linguistic similarities suggesting a mispronunciation by different cultures of what would likely be the most original form of the word, Aztlan, Atlan-tis, Avlon each A with the pronunciation begining sound of Awe. I would venture to say they all have the same origins. Interestingly enough the Aztec Codex rendition of their ancient home of Aztlan, 7 caves or cities, resembles very much the description given with respect to the Tibetan or Hindu Shambahla where in it is said, “there were 7 cities in the form of a Lotus, the ancient masters had discovered 7 precepts so powerful men would embrace them without question”

  

Aztec Codex rendition of the 7 Caves

in which they emerged and lived for near 300 years

after they were expelled from their more ancient home of Aztlan

One cannot help but think the 7 precepts and of the 7 Bishops who fled the Iberian peninsula in the Muslim conquest of 714 AD and found inscribed in the 1507/08 map of Johannes Ruysch, which reads (in English):

This island Antilia was once found by the Portuguese, but now when it is searched, cannot be found. People found here speak the Hispanic language, and are believed to have fled here in face of a barbarian invasion of Hispania, in the time of King Roderic, [About 700 AD] the last to govern Hispania in the era of the Goths. There is 1 archbishop here and 6 other bishops, each of whom has his own city; and so it is called the island of seven cities. The people live here in the most Christian manner, replete with all the riches of this century… KEEPING in mind... Aristotle wrote about Antillia in 300 BC. Many of us are familiar with the story of Prince Madoc having came to the Americas long before Columbus in the late 12th century, it would seem his story goes much deeper than any have written so far. Madoc came at the tail end of almost 1200 years of previous expeditions of his grandfathers.

1507/08 map of Johannes Ruysch

(See the purported hoax, Tucson Lead Cross artifacts)

The first occupation of the Holy Roman empire, (Referred to as Pueblos) in this area was 100 BC and to about 400 AD when they were overthrown, they returned again 300 years later in about 700 AD and brought the Toltec under submission, only to loose power again in about 1000 AD, this is one of the best kept secrets of the Royal families but one has to wonder why? Moteczuma whom Cortes conquered was a direct descendant of the Royal families of the British Isles which is a large part as to why King Charles I wanted Cortes's head for waging war on Mexico after all, he was killing the kings relatives, after 6 years of pleading his greedy case, Cortes was pardoned. The ruins of these early men from the British Isles in some places can still be found to this day. The principle city of Tontonteac (Casa Grande of Nevada, 5 miles of which is now under Lake Mead) Marata (Casa Grande) Chuco (Recent possible discovery near Washington Utah). Abacus Nuc Granada, (the capitol city of the area), and is believed to have been found but remains confidential at this time until it can be proven.

The Ruin in the following images are believed to be of the people mentioned in the previous paragraph. According to two experts in the field, neither will say WHAT it is, but they were willing to say it is not of Indian origin, nor Spanish. The Key factors at the site is the round structures at the two corners, the size of the overall structure and average height of the walls at about 7 feet tall and up to 8 feet.

Photos Courtesy of Evan Aris and Mike Dennett

All of the above have many compelling evidences in addition to what can be found in the book the Forbidden Histories of the Americas It would seem there is so much more yet to be told concerning the history of the continent, and it seems an open effort is still in place to keep it from being known… what is it the elite are after, what is it that is apparently unknown or hidden here in this place in the west that has seemingly compelled expeditions funded by the Royal Families of British Isles or the Holy Roman Empire and others? Why is it when they came here in 100 BC they lived according to the Roman Catholic faith but when they returned they had for some reason adopted and integrated a set of Jewish beliefs and referred to themselves from that time on as Roman Jewish. Where did this Jewish twist come from? Why is it that they still to this day covet this land? History without any doubt repeats itself, keep your eyes open, because it is all coming again.