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The Native American Petroglyph and Pictographs.

Original Post April 13th 2015

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The Native American Petroglyph and Pictographs

Many years ago when I stumbled across my first petroglyphs, I starred in amazement and wonder... What does this mean? I thought.. I was so stricken by the panel I found, I just had to know... what does this mean? Years later, after finding the only publication that showed someone seemed to know something about the meaning of Native American Petroglyphs, and trying to apply the principles in the field, it became more and more apparent that there was something to the Hypothesis of LaVan Martineau.

In the following pages I will do my best to bring you up to date concerning my findings in this still hypothesis. In the two following images I am going to give you the translation as simple as it needs to be, the message from the past as to what message was intended by them, and later in this progressive report, I will demonstrate a "breakdown" of the glyphs and explain why I have given the meaning I have... for those of you interested, stay tuned, for the skeptics let me remind you, you have no knowledge to the contrary. It would be like trying to refute the Bible, when you have never opened the pages.

There is a tree growing upon a rock and covering it, the tree has been cut off in the middle with two remaining branches which spread wide. The rock it grows upon is a part of a cavern, All of this is hard to see. 

After reading this I wondered, but how do I find this? Why is this here? And then, I noticed just a few yards away, these instructions...

There is a man made object, made to hold something, from this (side) outcrop, turn left and go down. over the ledges, through the wash (Gully, Rock Incorporation)) to here. 

After a little trial and error, I found the tree spoken of and sure enough it grew upon a large rock and as you stand in front of it all, I find that the first glyph above, looks just as the location it is found. Upon this rock on which the tree grows, was the final instructions to find what was hidden a very long time ago... but it went un-noticed until the tree was trimmed a little...

The tree above is the very tree which grows upon a very large rock. Prior to some trimming of the thick overgrowth, you could not see the implications, nor could you even come close to seeing the final glyph indicated by the red arrow.

The tree appears exactly as the glyph says, the middle has been cut out by a sharp thin blade which can be no other than a broad axe or sword. A branch has grown out since the larger center branches were cut, this branch grew into the path where one of the larger branches would have been if it had not been cut. To me this was a golden opportunity to at least get some idea as to how long ago the tree had been cut. The branch which had grown into the path of the now missing branch core sampled at 200 plus years. How many years had past since the cutting, had this branch began to grow is unknown. But who ever pecked the glyphs found as per the instructions of the petroglyphs nearby, they obviously knew of its cutting and it is suspect to have been cut by Spaniards, but why would they do this? There is one other suspect group who may be responsible, but I will hold my tongue for now. And why would the Indigenous go to so much trouble to obscure the site, and then provide a cryptic message to preserve its location? We will not know until we open what remains closed...

In the following pages I am going to give you a little treatise that I hope will help you to understand the basis of the hypothesis of the Native American Petroglyph, as a written language, according to myself, and LaVan Martineau.

The Ancient Hieroglyph 

Remember, at the end of this treatise which will be several parts, I will give and explanation of the first two photos found in the first part, in the form of what I have come to call a "breakdown" of the panel or glyphs.

My first Panel
 (My journey began by following the (locator glyphs) found in the bottom right, "Cross over here (or this place), go to the top of the next hill or (ridge), go a Fair distance, 
(Which was approximately 1/3 of a mile)

In the course of teaching the principles of LaVan Martineau pertaining to what is commonly referred to as the Native American Petroglyph, many misunderstandings have come up, many questions as to different forms of hieroglyphs found here in North America regarding a relationship with the former, but are they really so different? If you do not approach this with an open mind you will receive no benefit. PROVE ME WRONG; I invite it, but don’t just throw me questions of which the answer cannot be understood if you do not understand where my answer comes from. How many times have you found yourself trying to answer some Religious question of which you know is perfectly understood by those who have read the book, but can’t seem to convey the same message with results, to someone who refuses to read the book from which the question and the answer derives? How many times have you received the answer Oh I’ve read the book with this supposing to satisfy you in why you are wrong when you know that not only have you read the book, studied it, applied the principles in the field and proved them, but have done this numerous times over the years?

Let me side step a bit... Many years ago, I was invited by an archaeologist and student which was her husband, to pay a visit to an area near Ferron Utah At the time I thought it was because they had a true interest in the hypothesis, and I suppose they may have... we traveled up the canyon a ways and they stopped and we all got out and they pointed across the river asking if I had seen the glyphs by the pine tree, yes I replied I have, she asked do you know what it means? Yes I said, it gives directions to a cave down canyon which we passed, have you been to the cave I asked? Yes she replied, looking quickly at her husband, have you? she asked... No I have not I replied... Then she asked if I had been to the panel up canyon which had a nice spiral high on the ledge and asked if I had seen it and studied it and knew what it meant... yes I said in fact it was an easy one... oh ya? she said disbelieving looking again at her husband,  what does it mean... I told her it means "don't go to the right it is a bad way, go to the left around the ledges then ascend up to an over hanging ledge in which you will find under it, a granary. I asked her if she had ever been up to it, yes still looking a bit surprised... I haven't I said.

The purpose of this part is in an effort to shed some light on the subject and clarify many of the things of which I feel I have failed to explain in previous attempts. A simple one time reading of LaVan Martineau’s book The Rocks Begin to Speak is NOT sufficient for most of its readers, many do NOT get the idea the first read. For clarification, we need to understand the terminology which I will be using so that you can understand my reasons for using different terms which have in the past been misunderstood as to what was being said.

At another time many years ago I wise but skeptical friend of mine sent me a picture of a petroglyph asking me If I knew what it meant. I told him I generally will not try to decipher a glyph by a picture alone and that I prefer to see it in person, but I would make an exception for him... I said looking at the picture that I can tell you are in a wash and to your left is a ridge in which there should be a trail going up, when it comes to a flat area, turn to the right and in a short distance you should find some ruins...  Now he knew I had never seen this place before and next thing after he read my email, the phone rings, his first words was, "how the hell did you do that?" "You just described the exact circumstances to get from the glyph to some ruins high above the glyph".... what could I say?

Continuing on...

In the following I am going to attempt to talk primarily about five seemingly different types of writing forms. Also mentioning others of which some are believed to be different from the others and they are only different in application (Different Rules, if you will), and different in that they are modified in the manner of different speech

Many will read and read and still it never clicks. To those people, my advice with no offense intended, is to toss in the towel; you were not meant to know. We will be talking about what is primarily referred to as Native American Petroglyphs and Pictographs, including what is believed to be sub groups such as Fremont Style Anasazi Style or Vernal Style when in fact there is no style to speak of. They are the same, differing only in subject and in SOME cases, minor tribal differences (Application) due to perspective or manner of speech.

We will discuss what is known as Mystery Glyphs, The Lenape Wallum Olum, the Ojibwa Hieroglyphs and Egyptian and how all of them, including the Native American Petroglyphs, have a common root.

Understanding the terms used.


The symbol was created from the motions of Hand Sign language but is not limited to; it may also be symbolic of some thing as seen by the eye in its natural appearance or its natural motion. An example might be the symbol for "wooden object" which is identical to the symbol of our alphabet the letter Y. A symbol is to express some concept, action or idea. A hieroglyph such as a Mystery Glyph, Ojibwa Glyph or an Egyptian Glyph is NOT a symbol, it IS a combination of symbols put together to create a sentence or extended meaning of the symbols themselves, NOT a phonic sound. These symbols are of ancient origin and are most likely the very root of all Hieroglyphs. When in history, was the first time that a hand sign language was NEEDED other than the possibility that some where in history we had an overwhelming amount of people in a society that were deaf?  In ancient times, these people were generally shunned and no special consideration was given. They didn't have Hillary and Obama to look out for them. 

The first time a hand sign language would have come into NEED is shortly after the Confusion of Tongues, something had to be done to re-establish some form of communication and this is the very place that I believe this originated. Shortly afterwards, a hand sign language was created. This was the first impulse when two people came together who did not understand each other. This would be your response, unless you are like many who just try speaking slower as if this might help. I believe the hand signing was converted to a system of symbols modeled after the already in place hand sign language. At this time it would make perfect sense to add several other independent symbols to convey any other concept, action or idea which hand sign language could not convey. For this very reason our modern day sign language for the deaf is accompanied with a sign language for the alphabet in order to spell things which cannot be relayed by sign language alone.

Near everyone is familiar with the fact that no matter what tribe was encountered when the Europeans arrived on this continent, was that most of the Indigenous regardless of where they were found, could understand each other through signing even if one was from the southern most regions of South America, and the other from the great lakes. Now, could they all understand the glyphs? Maybe.

The 3rd Panel I had ever found...
(as short as the story it tells is... it is an interesting one.)

Hieroglyph or Character

This is what is referred to as a symbol combination and/or symbol incorporation. A Hieroglyph or Character is NOT a symbol. Many would call this a symbol and it is often viewed as a symbol which they assume has a one word meaning, when in fact a Hieroglyph or Character is a combination of symbols to express some Extended concept, action or idea of the symbols that make up the character. In the same way you would add to a sentence using the English words such as The Red House you have used 3 words of which house and red would represent single symbols, but if you wanted to be more descriptive you would add more words such as The Big Red House or if you wanted to expand upon this idea it may be something like The big Red House on the Hill and so on, this is exactly how symbol combinations work.

Each Hieroglyph or Character used whether it is of the Mystery Glyphs, Wallum Olum, Egyptian Glyphs or the Ojibwa Glyphs is designed to express a specific idea According to their manner of speech. This is the very reason why some of the Mystery Glyphs may not be exactly the same as the Ojibwa Glyph because a slightly different concept, action or idea is being expressed or the two are from two similar but different speaking language groups and do not share the same meaning in a specific word.

The most likely solution as to why they are and not all identical is that you are comparing apples to oranges in that you are comparing two seemingly like symbols used by both groups but you are comparing The Big Red House to The Big Round Red House or to The Big Scarlet House  or The Blue House OR, the subject of the panel is similar but different enough to warrant a different derivative word other than the assigned base meaning word for that symbol. Also, not all languages have interchanging words which perfectly describes the other.

Symbol Combinations

Another example of this would be from Tomkins' book and the Ojibwa Character that he says means Morning. You will notice that he has two other glyphs; one meaning Noon and one meaning Evening.

Are these symbols the same? Are these symbols? No they are not symbols, they are Hieroglyphs or Characters and no, even though it is the same concept or idea showing the positioning of the sun, they are not the same because some variable in the concept is different. This is pointed out because some would say that the Ojibwa Glyphs are not exactly the same as the Mystery Glyphs or visa versa and are only similar. I would say that is because we have yet to see ALL of the possible combinations of the symbols that make them up. This would be like someone who had never seen the English language supposing that, because they had identified 250 phrases using English words, they now understood the English language. We do not have to point out the hundreds of thousands of combinations of English words to form different phrases.

The glyph we see as Morning using the symbol of Hidden or Covering as the sky and the short line placed at the suns position at the location of Morning, Noon and Evening which comes from the symbol, On Top being a symbol looking like an upside down capitol T. this is also an extension of the meaning Holding Firm or Having to do with which is a sideways capitol T. These two symbols COMBINED give us the Glyph for Morning, Noon and Evening by virtue of the positioning or placement of the upside down T.  This you will find is the same in all of the discussed writing systems differing only in a application, style of writing or none at all. In one more example in which some would say that they are similar but not identical is the symbol found in the mystery glyphs.

Are these two hieroglyphs identical? Many would say they are the same yet the answer is NO they are not, yet it would seem quite obvious that they share a common root. The biggest difference that I see is probably not what you would see. The difference which matters most to me is the lines surrounding the circle which forms the head. In the Mystery Glyph the lines touch the head and in the Ojibwa Glyph they do not, why?  Let’s look at a little rule I discovered many years ago through much trial and error and application of this rule. I won’t bore you with how I discovered this and further more I wouldn’t expect you to believe it. But in short the best way to explain it is by using the Gone symbol which is actually two symbols together and technically it is a Hieroglyph, Character or a combination of symbols.

Wherever movement or locater symbols are used with the line (Trail or Path) attached to another symbol; this means From and where it leads but is not attached means To.

Assuming that Tompkins was correct in the meaning that he had attributed to Wise Man, it would be most fitting in which perspective comes into play when you examine the two together meaning the Mystery Glyph and the Ojibwa Glyph. In the Ojibwa glyph, what is coming INTO the head? Well the only thing that really makes sense is some form of knowledge. So in the Mystery Glyph by the same token, what is going out (From) the head? Again it would seem that the logical explanation is again: some form of knowledge. But how do you get knowledge to go out to another with nothing but thought?  Depending upon your perspective or the manner of your speech, these two glyphs can mean the same thing or either can mean any derivative of wise man such as Prophet or Teacher, and are more than just wise men. It depends on the intended subject of the author of the panel and his perspective along with his manner of speech, etc...

Symbol Incorporation

Symbol Incorporation is very much like a symbol combinations except that rather than one symbol beingattached to another or being added to the overall glyph, a single symbol may take upon the characteristics of another symbol, thereby creating what might be viewed as a new symbol or character. The chart below, created by LaVan Martineau, is the best example of the differences between Symbol Combinations and Symbol Incorporations. Keep in mind that once two symbols are put together by combination or incorporation it becomes a hieroglyph or character.

The examples shown above are found on page 14 of LaVan’s book. We see in column A, the symbol combinations, and in column B, the symbols that make them up. In column C are the symbol incorporations, while in column D, the symbols that make them up. If you take a good look at any of the Glyphs whether they are Egyptian, Mystery Glyph, Ojibwa or the Wallum Olum, you will find examples of this; Column A and C are Characters NOT symbols.

Symbol base meaning

The Symbol Base Meaning is a word meaning attributed to a single symbol, but it is NOT its absolute meaning, it is general. Largely this exists due to the differences in Language. We may not have an exact word which describes a symbol used by those who created the symbol. Depending upon the subject of the panel, a proper or best fitting derivative word of the base meaning word must be identified and most certainly will vary from panel to panel never loosing its base meaning. An example would be in the Symbol known as a simple circle, the base meaning would be Holding, yet many meanings can be attributed to just this one symbol depending on the subject of the panel. It can mean Camp, Lake, Sky, Cave, or even infinity, anything that holds something. The word infinity is added simply because the circle is actually an extension of the symbol which carries the base meaning of Go which is just a straight line, which can also mean Trail, Path or Path of Life. By bringing the line full circle, infinity is accomplished. However, I have yet to see this symbol meaning infinity in any panel. The point is that you need to find the best word or set of words that fit the subject.


The Subject of the panel is self explanatory, it is what the panel is about, and knowing or discovering the subject can make the task of translating much easier in finding the proper derivative word of the Base Meaning. Discovering the subject can be easy or very difficult, study of the ways of the ancients is a must, their beliefs, study of the area in which the glyphs was found is often very helpful in discovering the subject, and there is another little trick as well which I will withhold at this time.

The second panel I had found in about 1988 and previously unknown and still is,
however it is badly overgrown and difficult to find, the above image is enhanced for viewing.

The Quadruped or “Goat Symbol”

Although LaVan Martineau in his book, gives what I see as a clear understandable explanation of the mysterious Goat Symbol and sometimes called Sheep Glyph, I will add but a little…

UNLESS it was actually intended to represent a particular animal, what is often referred to as, Mountain Goats, Dear or Elk has NOTHING to do with ANY animal. How do you know the difference? The Native American is very well known for their keen eye and ability to capture the majority of the details when recreating some thing, in short, they are known as some of the best artists on the planet. If it were meant to represent a specific animal, it will look like it WITHOUT the stretch of the imagination often applied.

This little critters appearance at almost every petroglyph site has caused more misunderstanding that any other glyph and because of superficial viewing, or the unwillingness to investigate, we end up with pure conjecture. An example of this might be had concerning what has been termed as the “Great Hunt Panel” due to superficial viewing and as a result of two things in the panel which “Obviously” has to do with hunting. The appearance of what seems to be a man holding a bow, and a high frequency of some animal looking like a sort of Deer, however this panel has absolutely nothing to do with the hunting of animals.

 The Great Hunt?

This fictitious animal was created for the sole purpose of conveying “Lateral Movement” and this is why it appears in high frequency world wide. In most panels it will be associated with what we have come to identify as "Locator Glyphs." For more understanding, see The Rocks Begin to Speak pg 3 and pg 47.

The Breakdown

The breakdown is exactly what it sounds like; it is the process by which a panel is dissected into its single independent symbols in order to identify them, to give a clearer picture in order to attribute the base meanings to the many symbols. A chart is made of all the symbols found.

The best way I can think to explain the breakdown is of course demonstration of which I will give an example in the end, however, in my research I am faced often with very old hand written documents which are always in cursive. Many are tattered, torn and in shaky hand writing, I often find myself systematically segregating the many easier identifiable words, in order to discover what they may be by comparison to those which are not so obscure and compare the letters in each of them in order to find the intended often not so easy to identify word.

With the Native American Glyphs it is much like receiving an old hand written document of some foreign language using the alphabet. The difference is, In the Native Glyphs we only have part of the alphabet, with barely understood application of rules and or applicable principles. Identifying the many single symbols used, in the end makes it possible to discover the subject of the panel, but most important, the potential meaning of the panel.


I have already expressed my opinion as to when and where this all started, and this would explain why it has spread to virtually every continent of the world and seems to retain the same meaning with some slight deviations. But how did this glyph system get here to the Americas? I believe that shortly after the confusion of tongues and in about 2400 BC, a family of the descendants of Japheth left the location of the Tower Babylon, then migrated to the regions of today’s east coast China, these are the people who would eventually became the fathers and mothers of all Asian people and at this time the closest living relative would be the Altai Mongolian and on this continent after much intermixing would be the Inuit, Navajo and Hopi (but not limited to).

Not long after they arrived in the area of eastern China, a group of them broke away and sailed into their eastern sea arriving some time later at or near today’s California coast. Whether these people brought this symbol based system of hieroglyphs that we know as Native American Petroglyphs, is unknown. It does not make sense that they would bring it with them as according to what we might consider as our scriptures, they retained the original language both spoken and written and to this day, examples are found from east to west but is often suppressed. It is likely that some unknown group came to this continent, at a later date, bringing it with them. If so, they would have had a need for it to communicate with those who had come here around 2400 BC.

It is more likely, however, that after this people had nearly annihilated themselves due to a civil war with few remaining and with this occurring about 650 BC, that another group brought this system of symbols with them with these people being of Hebrew Origin according to DNA studies and who arrived according to many sources on our eastern coast near the Delmarva Peninsula about 600 BC and at near the same time another who sailed up the Mississippi and establishing themselves. Another group documented by the Aztec with the specific date given of 635 BC, said to have landed on the northern tip of the Yucatan peninsula.

Most Archaeologists today do not recognize The Native American Petroglyph as a writing system. They see it as doodling, hunting magic or meaningless scribbling, I’ve heard it all from their own mouths. At the same time they attribute style to them such as Fremont style, Vernal style and Anasazi style. This, in and of itself makes no sense. Are they saying it a Meaningless Scribbling Style? What is it they are trying to say or not say? If the scribbling conveys ANY kind of a message whatsoever, then it is a writing system.

In the first part of this little treatise I said...

"In the two following images I am going to give you the translation as simple as it needs to be, the message from the past as to what message was intended by them, and later in this progressive report, I will demonstrate a "breakdown" of the glyphs and explain why I have given the meaning I have..." 

Well that time has come and in the following I will now perform the breakdown to help you better understand this process and hopefully give you a better understanding of the Native American Petroglyphs and to better support in your mind as to the possibilities of the Native glyphs as a true written language.

In the first image below and using the breakdown, I will give explanation to a degree, I hope it is sufficient for the reader. The interpretation I gave is as follows;

"There is a tree growing upon a rock and covering it, the tree has been cut off in the middle with two remaining branches which spread wide. The rock it grows upon is a part of a cavern, All of this is hard to see."

Now of course I have added in filler words for clarity but this would be the basic translation, If I did not, it would read something like this:

"Hidden, Tree on Rock covering, cut off in middle, rock part of Cavern, right side open near end."

Even that may not be entirely accurate as the learning process never seems to end.

With this said lets look at the image below showing the breakdown of symbols perceived or viewed withing the glyph itself be it symbol combinations, symbol incorporation or what is referred to as "rock incorporation where in the features of the rock the glyphs are on, are incorporated to give added meaning. For examples of Rock Incorporation see page 201 Index of The Rocks Begin to Speak.

For a Larger Image, click the picture.

Beginning with a. we have hidden, in most cases when a symbol is located above separate from the main glyphs, it usually represents the subject OR has to do with the entire subject, in this case it does not represent the subject but is simply meaning, All of this is hard to seeTHIS being the main body or subject of this panel.

b. means wooden object and in this case a tree, the symbol is incorporated into the main body of the glyph which in fact looks some what like a tree on a rock, something which I have noticed over the years is the ability of the Natives to cause the glyph in many causes to actually look like the thing they are talking about, at the same time using the symbols and combining them to say the same thing.

c. is the incorporation of, off, of the top to indicate the tree being cut off in the middle. It to being ingeniously incorporated into what would be the main body of the tree and branches.

d. evaded my understanding for some time as it seemed repetitive, however I believe it was added here to convey or clarify the message of the branches are what is covering everything and making it all hard to see or hidden of which it was indeed when we located it. It was not until the branches were pulled back that one could see the tree had been cut off.

e. is understandable enough, clarifying the tree on top of the rock, however the incorporation of f. to veer still evades my understanding as to why it was included.

g. and h. were clearly representation of the outcrop or rock in which the tree grew, and one would actually have to see for themselves the uncanny scene which has been captured in the glyph, so much so, it left no doubt.

i. Over the years I have discovered that when ever ANY line symbol makes a complete loop and coming back to itself, regardless of its shape and especially when the shape itself does not seem to match any particular known symbol, that the meaning of holding is present, and what you are looking at, is more than likely a geological feature as is the case here, and it is a beautiful rendition of the rock outcrop itself. But why is holding include?

j. may be insignificant other than without it, it would not accurately describe what was being looked for and if it had not been present and I had not found the final glyph with final instructions, I would have questioned the meaning.

h. I am uncertain as it could be open, but at the same time meaning end. I am still unclear as to what the author intended...

But, where do I look for this I thought, and why? and then I looked up and to the left...

To be continued.....  in the last part,

After evaluating the previous glyph I was puzzled, I couldn't understand why these instructions were given. After following the trail or locator glyphs from the first panel now 1/2 mile away, I found my self wondering why are they're here? What is this all leading to? How do I find this tree as there are so many? Just then I looked a little closer and up and to the left, and there was the glyphs to, in part answer that question.

Ah, I thought, there is the subject and what I was looking for, and the instructions as to how to find it. I cannot explain the rush that overcomes you when you feel you understand what the author is talking about in any panel. 

Keep in mind, it seems that never is it as easy as it may seem here in this example to read the glyphs, even at this early date of my studies, it just so happens that many of these symbols I was quite familiar with, even 25 plus years ago. Even at this early point in time, I had already worn out one of LaVans books and was well into wearing out my second. Today I rarely even look at the book.

Let me reiterate the translation of this glyph as given in part one; 

There is a man made object, made to hold some thing. From this (side) or outcrop, turn left and go down. over the ledges, through the wash (Gully, Rock Incorporation)) to here. 

After a little trial and error in figuring out what was being said, I cleared my head and went over  it again carefully, this time I looked in the direction intended, and spotted what I thought was the tree in question some 60 yards away. It would be another dozen or more visits to this place before I discovered the right tree intended, just 12 yards uphill. Keep in mind, at this time I had not understood exactly what was being said about the tree being cut off in the middle. This would not be understood until one day quite frustrated as I knew I was in the right place, I parted the branches of the correct tree and my jaw dropped as I realized that portion of the panel seeing it had been cut. I recall at that moment saying, "now if I could only find that last glyph that I know is here... at that moment the Swiss exchange student that was with us that day, pointed at the rock I was sitting on examining the tree and said, whats that pointing at the very glyph I had looked for for so long.

On with the breakdown....

a. As I said in the previous breakdown in part five, when a glyph is located above and set apart from what appears to be the main glyph, it is often the subject of the panel or has to do with the subject. In this particular case, it is the subject, and the subject as best as I can put it is, A man made place (stone Box or man made Vault) containing some thing... 

The man made portion of the translation is arrived at by the incorporation of the center of the circle in being squared off, (b.) yet remaining with rounded corners. This indicates it was made for this purpose.

The remaining group of glyphs are among the first glyphs I had learned and are what we call locator glyphs. c. is the symbol in this case for turn and go down, it can by itself also mean turn and go right, but because it was attached or touching the symbol d. (Side) this brings in the meaning of From. Had it been detached as is the dot at the end of the trail symbol, with the dot, it would have read turn and go right TO this side.

The symbol e. (Steps) or the intended meaning, ledges, further clarifies the previous where in From is again intended, so at this point we have, From this side or outcrop, turn left and go down over the ledges.

f. is the only form present and used at this site of what is called Rock Incorporation and is a natural gouge in the rock and its intended incorporated meaning is that you will be crossing some form of gully, wash or the like. 

g. is a combination of two glyphs, the remainder of the glyph (line) not shown in the charts specifically with the meaning of trail or path and TO the detached (dot) symbol meaning here or in some cases one.

After all of this I know you are feeling what I did as I followed the path, what could possibly be hidden in this place and why would the Indigenous go to so much trouble to conceal it after it was marked by the cutting of the tree, presumably by Spaniards, and then re-mark the presumed same thing, in their own way to obviously conceal it from others, but yet mark it sufficiently so that it could be found by a later generation? I have an answer, and I am sorry, but I must bite my tongue... I will say however that this is NOT a burial site, or at least it was not intended to be so...

I hope this little treatise of 6 parts was enough to convince you of the probability of the Native American Glyph as having strong possibilities of being a written hieroglyphic form of communication. At least to a degree of curiosity to choose to further investigate the Native American Petroglyph and Pictographs.

Thank You...

If you should choose more to understand LaVan Maritineau's hypothesis of the Native American Glyphs as a written language, seek out a copy of his book, The Rocks Begin to Speak.

You may also learn more about it in chapter 16 of the Book Nephite North, go to books  for sale and buy it on amazon.

Wednesday, July 19, 2023

Smithsonian Cover ups of Lost civilizations

  Original Article April 16th 2022

and the creation of non existent Cultures


la Quemada in Zacatecas Mexico

In these past few years we have seen how easy it was for the powers that be to fool the people, to hide that which is profound and to make profound that which does not exist.

The following lead-in is an intended rant designed to shake us and help us to open our eyes to reality. With that said…

The similitude of the Arm of Flesh

We have watched these last few years as our friends and family drop dead as a result of the peddlers who said it would save us from a terrible illness only to find it was and is the very thing that will bring death, and it has been going on longer than you think.  “Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.” I am reminded of when the pretend government took blankets to the Indians to help them stay warm, INTENTIONALLY laced with small pox...

White is still white and black is still black, but our minds have been conditioned and programmed to see opposition in what is real and true, Even now a majority believe their eyes have been opened but I could show them that their eyes are still closed. And when they try to open them they only complain and ask, why do my eyes hurt when I try to open them, the answer has been told us before, but were we listening? The answer is, you’ve never used them. 

We have become so reliant upon science in every form, taking in all that we have heard and think we have learned for so many years, We cannot tell truth from fallacy, many examples of this could be said… think about this, we have come to accept what is termed as a health care system, when in fact in its current state, it is the biggest threat to our health in these times, and yet we continue to run to these barbarians who do not have your health in mind at all.

Over 120 years ago these same people came riding into town with their horse drawn wagon and set up shop in the middle of the dirt streets opening the side of their very impressive looking wagon exposing hundreds of little fancy bottles of brown snake oil, or should we now say venom? Of which was said would cure almost anything. And today we have the very same thing. The wagons are now obsolete as they have brainwashed the people so much so that the wagon have become a grand building with a big impressive acronym across the front of the building like IHC which the people claim as their own, the peddler has no need to travel any more as the people are willingly go to the peddler, make appointments and sit and wait for an hour to see him... Imagine the prayer that could be had during that time... The liquid potion is the same yet it is now also in the form of a pill or a vaccine. Nutrition, common sense and faith have been thrown out the window. The Peddler has now been raised to the status of and treated as a God... All I see is a worthless hunk of flesh that wants to kill me....

Today the women put so much faith in the peddler that they cast aside their belief in their God, who has been present at every child birth that has ever occurred since creation, and instead they go to the grand building of IHC where the peddler dwells to have their babies. I always wondered why do they call it health care? and yet the very same people who hold these peddlers so high in esteem, if a red light in their new car came on and the mechanic said, I can fix that, then places a piece of black tape over the light so it can no longer annoy you... then hand you a bill of a thousand dollars you would cry FOUL!... or would you? as this is exactly what the "Health" care system is doing... there is no money in cure... only treatment or better said, masking the problem with black tape.

And why do they do it? Because it is what they were taught to do, they know no other way, they lack the ability to return to the ways that have existed for centuries and they will come up with every excuse in the book to explain why they cannot cast off their peddler, his ways and his potions.

Regardless of the lies we have been told these last few years, it is nothing compared to the lies we have been fed our entire lives. It is said that the number 2 disease (Cancer) and cause of death in America which claims that 1 in 3 of every living person will get it,  and it is a bald face lie.

And if I were to explain the truth behind it, how it is created and what the people are doing that makes it possible to exist, they would fight kick and scream to maintain their current way of life and would refuse to change, because the peddlers have made it so appealing and desirable. 

If any of you care to put it to the test, so be it, but I assure you, you will argue with me and seek every possible excuse just so you do not have to change nor see the truth. try me...

END OF RANT… maybe.

So you see, it isn’t easy trying to wake the sleeping and when they do open their eyes, it hurts, and they are confused because they do not understand what they are looking at because they have never seen before.

Creating fake history 

How far will the powers that be go to hide the truth from you? Do we really need to ask? Why was it so important to create the illusion of a Country that never existed? Septimania. Yes at one time there was an “area” that was referred to as Septimania in Southern France, but I say this simply because the word appears on one single map from the 16th century. The word does not appear on the map as a country, state, providence or city, it appears as an area, and only in one case I can find in ancient maps of the area of France and Spain. But if it were a country or part of a providence as WIKI is so willing to help us understand, why don’t we find more credible maps that show it? They claim it existed from  about 400 AD to 800 AD and yet in all my searches in the most valued history books of Spain, France and others, I find no reference to this place that is claimed to have existed and played such an important roll in their History. In over 3000 pdf books of History where in you would most certainly find references to this place, only one came up and it appears in two books by an author whom after his death of course, was academically slandered and ridiculed, Josiah Priest in his book American Antiquities makes this curious statement.


Covering the Truth

Now I have the works of Diodorus, but have yet to find any mention of this Septimania. [found but does not mention Lecta] I do find however what appears to be the first translation of the works Diodorus of Sicily in the early 1900’s I cannot rule out it being edited out of the text as I do not read Greek, but apparently Josiah Priest could and was not the uneducated man WIKI would have you believe. How far will “they” go? If you go to WIKI and read their ditty on Josiah Priest, you will find this….


 [Notice there is no citation which means the wiki writer pulled it out of his ass. Also notice all the links in the article to promote more racist ideals and twisted history]

I have read both his books and none of what is said by the  Wiki fact checkers is true.

Again no citation and again it is bull shit. THIS is how far they will go....

Fortunately the WIKI article currently on Septimania which I think you will find odd. The article goes on and on about how important this place of Septimania was and how it played such and important role in Histories that don’t even mention it. One particular writer that is cited but not accurately, is Edward James and the book cited was written in 1980 just 5 years after Cyclone Covey’s book was published, Calalus: A Roman Jewish Colony in America, from the Time of  Charlemagne through Alfred the Great . 

James it seems was not on board with “they the peddlers” because he seems to speak from his own mouth… however when reading his chapter “Septimania and its Frontier” one gets the idea he is writing about a different geological location other than Southern France, and even hints unknowingly about it. In reading Professor Zuckerman’s book A Jewish Princedom in Feudal France, I am surprised he did not see it.

Now I have gone to deep into this cover-up and at this point I would just  like to recommend Professor Cyclone Covey’s book.

Septum, Septimania

Fictitious Cultures 

Why it was so important to cover up the many expeditions and colonization’s of the Americas? Why was it so important to the Peddlers to go so far as deleting history, creating fake history in order to provide a cover for inevitable leaks and to create bull shit otherwise known as false notions in the minds of the casual researchers, WIKI for example? 

How many of you have heard of the Pueblo culture, the Ancestral Pueblo, Hohokum Fremont culture and Mogollon culture. It is said that these names are used by archaeologists to define cultural differences among prehistoric peoples. Well that may be so but they are also used whether they themselves know it or not, because they have no idea who they were or did they? It would have been easier to Say Romans or Indo Greeks. 

When one looks at the many ruins here in the west, south and even the Mississippi valley, and many seeming to exist at the same time frame, Based on what the peddlers have given us for over 170 years, how is it this primitive people as they portray them even today it seems, how did these people suddenly advance from simple hunter gathers and basket makers as the academics put it… then suddenly build these many structures which in many cases is clear they were built by influences outside of America, and then regress back to a prehistoric state?


Sense, not so common 

Lets for a moment say that the academic narrative is correct, and man arrived on this continent some 30,000 years ago after hanging out in Africa for some 100,000 years and just got tired of all the sunshine and listening to their woman nag about all the sand. In their search for a cooler climate after hundreds of years of travel across the Asian continent and venturing progressively more into the N/E and into the frozen waste lands... You see, their brains were not fully developed and so they didn’t realize that the further they went that direction, the colder it got, so cold that even someone without a brain would turn back but!... their luck pans out and not all of them freeze to death because they found a land bridge in which they somehow knew that should they cross and press on, the weather and climate was somehow going to get warmer, lets call this culture the Algorites who would later discover climate change and the internet.

Thought to identify as  a male Algorite from 30,000 years ago found along the Bering Striate perfectly preserved probably frozen in the first Ice Age


After arriving here the people played around with hunting and gathering stuff and learned to weave baskets, suddenly they had a spark of knowledge and figured out how to build extraordinary complex structures and this went on for a hundreds years and then those with developed minds for some reason died out probably from a comet strike or maybe even a plandemic, and every one went back to hunting gathering and basket making and forgot all about the glory days to the point where in no one seams to know who these builders were.

It is 2000 years into the future at a time 1000 year after a catastrophic event and archaeologist of the day are digging at a site belonging to the Duchesnite culture and they discover a strange object made with some lost pottery technology... after months of study it is determined it was used for ceremonial purposes.... I can attest to that!


Back to being semi serious…

How many of you have been to the ruins of Chaco Canyon? How many of you have stood there looking at this magnificent accomplishment and wondered why… how… who? Now I am not saying the inhabitants of this area did not build these structures… well wait… yes I am … sort of…  but I am asking, why is there absolutely no recall concerning these things? No family legend passed down etc?... The Native people no doubt participated in the building of these places, but I would bet it was as slave labor. I wouldn’t want to remember that either.


When I look at any part of Chaco, I see nothing Native American


Are you familiar with la Quemada in Zacatecas Mexico? This fascinating site generally doesn’t even show up on maps of the Ruins of Mexico, why not?

You guess it! Built by Chalchihuites

Borrowed from the Nuahtl word chalchihuitl (Turquoise)

What did you expect? Welsh, Romans? Maybe Ancestral Puebloans perhaps?


Wupatki Ruins


How about Wupatki Ruins located N/E of Sunset Crater, said to have been first inhabited 500 AD and abandoned about 325 years after Sunset Crater was said to be active or should we just say the Colorado Plateau uplift. Most of us thought the ball courts were only found in the Yucatan, but we have an untold amount in Arizona, one is found at the Wupatki. I wonder who these people were? Maybe the Wupatkians?


If you have not been to Chaco Canyon or la Quemada, go look up pictures, Teotihuacán, Cahokia in Missouri etc… what happened to these people? Who were they and why are there lingering legends of the Native people who made war with them and ran them off? Over and over again… but... ran who off?

There are dozens and dozens of examples such as these throughout Arizona.


Fortifications perched high..

One such place which I will withhold the name at this time, 2 friends sent me photos some time back. Both having lived in the area, one of the two men’s mother had academic connections and put forth the question to the archeologists in the area and asked… Who is responsible for these ruins? The two Archaeologists  asked separately from each other, responded in the same way… When asked if the Spanish were responsible they abruptly said no, and they were not made by the Indians eitherWell then who? She asked and realizing they had just stuck their foot in their mouth hesitantly said, We don’t know... If they know it is not Spanish and they know it is not Indian, how do they know this? What did they find that tells them who it is not? I think they do know… I know who built these walls… do you?


Large fortification with round turrets on the corners sitting

on the edge of a cliff face

Photos Courteously of “Mike”


Walls up to 4’ thick and 7 feet high

Not Spanish, not Indians then who?


There are countless fortifications spread around the south west perched on top of peaks or at the edge of a bluff etc… clearly offensive and yet defensive in Nature. Who was defending against whom? Who were these pale skin people the Native people always talked about running them out, long before the Spanish?

If you wish to see just how frequent these hill top ruins and forts are here in the west, there is a curious and energetic young man who features many of these on his youtube channel, The Trek Planner. He is very good at keeping the locations of these sites unknown. https://www.youtube.com/@TheTrekPlanner how is it that there are so many locations, and yet archaeology steers our attention towards the cliff dwellers, the very people who were trying to stay hidden from these fort builders...


What City?

In this very area and in around 1850, James H. Tevis was told by an Apache Chief that he befriended, that long before the Spanish came,

The Apaches say that, at one time, they were a great war tribe, but that a great army invaded their country with such terrible war implements that their people were killed before their arrows could reach the enemy.


Those who did reach close enough for hand to hand fighting could not match the invaders' broad blade hatchets and broke their lances on the invaders' shields.


Even though the Apaches numbered twenty to one, the enemy was successful in every engagement, and kept driving them north. Behind this vast army came a great number of people in charge of priests. They settled along all the watercourses, building forts and churches. In the mountains they also built furnaces and melted the rocks like water. Finally, the Apaches had to succumb to the tyranny of the invaders, and they were no better than slaves, for warriors, squaws, and children worked for them.  

Since when did the Spanish army's use broad blade axe's and shields here in the Americas?

Tevis was taken to a lost city which remains lost… even with his meticulous instructions we still do not know, I often wonder if Smithsonian got there before it was known again… was there just to much to hide? Did the Academics find out about this place and destroy it or cover it? Its not like the Army Core of Engineers hasn’t done it several times before…

Rather than re-tell what has already been told, you may return to the article 

Abacus nuc Granada, Monetzuma city?

What was discovered that was so fascinating at Pueblo Grande of Nevada(the OBVIOUS Ancient City of Tontonteac shown on MANY maps) that was so amazing and implicating that they felt the need to build a dam knowing that the reservoir would cover up over five miles of the city just so they do not let the cat out of the bag and to keep you from knowing who was here. I often wonder what secrets may be found now that the gate keeper of the waters is instructed to create the illusion of drought at Lake Mead... Why did it take so long to organize an archaeological dig at Chaco Canyon? No river to build a dam to hide it maybe? How can you walk through the ruins of Chaco and not see the hints of Roman and/or Indo Greek architecture?


Slander the Evidence 

It was inevitable, even after getting the blatant evidences under control by any means necessary, there would no doubt be discoveries that clearly show that Romans, Welsh, Portuguese, Indo Greeks and others had visited this land long ago.

Several discoveries have been made but under the control of Smithsonian, these were swept under the rug, those discoveries which were not under Smithsonian’s control were hammered on by media crying hoax! Some were immediately stifled and no one said a thing about it just as if someone had passed gas in a crowd and no one wanted to acknowledge it for fear of blame.

Great efforts in some cases was given and numerous articles assuring you how ridiculous it is to even consider that any other culture has been here in the past.  One excellent example exist today in which lies a 10 foot petrified giant, plain to see but no one dares to question this said to be... absolutely ridiculous hoax… 

The inevitable was the Discovery of the Tucson Lead Crosses. Although the media jumped all over it and even today there are some who just can’t accept it. Despite the week arguments made by those who cater to Smithsonian, the master Peddler, the one thing that seems to escape the feeble minds, is common sense.

In 1924 Charles E. Manier was 39 Years of age, made a fantastic discovery, referred to as the Tucson Lead Crosses, he was a disabled Veteran of World War 1 being one of the first 1000 soldiers who reached France and who was in 1924 a patient in the first Veterans hospital in Tucson Arizona, and would be for another 2 years, why he was there I do not know, After his 5 year stay in the Veterans hospital, Marnier went to work as a Deputy Warden at the State Penitentiary after 1929.  Manier passed away at his home in 1941.

This just does not sound like the kind of man who would literally spend weeks days and months preparing to instigate a hoax of this size, it would seem that during the years of preparation of this so called hoax were pre occupied with Manier coming from Cleveland Ohio as a disabled Veteran and with a family no less to care for. It is amazing how the Peddlers of bullshit conveniently manage to leave out this information. 

Along with the previous reason for pulling on my sewer boots, it is later said in the all knowing wiki regarding the Lead Artifacts hoax...,



Now I like to think I am a pretty good researcher especially in the Genealogic field, If Timotéo Odohui lived in the area or even ever existed, something…. Anything… would have come up at the many genealogy data bases, but as it seems, Timotéo Odohui appears to be non existent, a fiction created by desperate peddlers. And this is the best they could come up with? 

Also searching the many articles now available online, I am not surprised I did not find the “local news article” mentioned above.

They would have me believe that Manier in his crippled state, manage to chisel away perfectly untold amounts of Caliche to insert perfectly where in an archaeologist could not tell, and place THIRTY ONE Lead articles forged from lead which I couldn’t guess how long that took to make, and then inscribed them with old Latin which again would be a very time consuming task! One genius of a man had this to say…. We won’t mention any names…


Well it just so happens that I to obtained the works of these classical authors and found that Mr. Fowler , if he ever existed, did no such thing, as there is NOTHING in the text of the Tucson artifacts that was “identical” not even close to any of the mentioned authors works. Stop peddling the bullshit and produce some tangible valid evidence. 

I have a plan… but do I have the means? Is it my calling? I do not know the answer to this. Time is a wonderful thing… if you have the patience…