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The Native American Petroglyph and Pictographs REVISED & Expanded

 Original Post April 13th 2015

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The Native American Petroglyph and Pictographs


Many years ago when I stumbled across my first petroglyphs, I stared in amazement and wonder... What does this mean? I thought.. I was so stricken by the panel I found, I just had to know... Of all the academic publications that I found, regarding Petroglyphs and Pictographs, I found that those who should know, do not know, and then I stumbled accross one lonely publication that showed that someone seemed to know something about the meaning of Native American Petroglyphs, and applying the principles he taught in the field, it became more and more apparent that there was something to the Hypothesis of LaVan Martineau in his book, The Rocks Begin to Speak.

In the following pages I will do my best to bring you up to date concerning my findings in this still hypothesis. In the two following images I am going to give you the translation as simple as it needs to be, the message from the past as to what message was intended by them, and later in this progressive report, I will demonstrate a "breakdown" of the glyphs and explain why I have given the meaning I have... for those of you interested, stay tuned, but for the skeptics let me remind you, you have no knowledge to the contrary. It would be like trying to refute the Bible, when you have never opened the pages.


There is a tree growing upon a rock and covering it, the tree has been cut off in the middle with two remaining branches which spread wide. The rock it grows upon is a part of a cavern, All of this is hard to see. 

After reading this I wondered, but how do I find this? Why is this here? And then, I noticed just a few yards away, these instructions...


There is a man made object, made to hold something, from this (side) outcrop, turn left and go down. over the ledges, through the wash (Gully, Rock Incorporation)) to here. 

After a little trial and error, I found the tree spoken of and sure enough it grew upon a large rock and as you stand in front of it all, I find that the first glyph above, looks just as the location it is found. Upon this rock on which the tree grows, was the final instructions to find what was hidden a very long time ago... but it went un-noticed until the tree was trimmed a little...


The tree above is the very tree which grows upon a very large rock. Prior to some trimming of the thick overgrowth, you could not see the implications, nor could you even come close to seeing the final glyph indicated by the red arrow.

The tree appears exactly as the glyph says, the middle has been cut out by a sharp thin blade which can be no other than a broad blade axe or sword. A branch has grown out since the larger center branches were cut, this branch grew into the path where one of the larger branches would have been if it had not been cut. To me this was a golden opportunity to at least get some idea as to how long ago the tree had been cut. The branch which had grown into the path of the now missing branch core sampled at 200 plus years. How many years had past since the cutting, had this branch began to grow is unknown. But who ever pecked the glyphs found as per the instructions of the petroglyphs nearby, they obviously knew of its cutting and it is suspect to have been cut by Spaniards, but why would they do this? There is one other suspect group who may be responsible, but I will hold my tongue for now. And why would the Indigenous go to so much trouble to obscure the site, and then provide a cryptic message to preserve its location? We will not know until we open what remains closed...

In the following pages I am going to give you a little treatise that I hope will help you to understand the basis of the hypothesis of the Native American Petroglyph, as a written language, according to myself, and LaVan Martineau.


The Ancient Hieroglyph 

Remember, at the end of this treatise which will be several parts, (Now Combined) I will give and explanation of the first two photos found in the first part, in the form of what I have come to call a "breakdown" of the panel or glyphs.


My first Panel
 (My journey began by following the (locator glyphs) found in the bottom right, "Cross over here (or this place), go to the top of the next hill or (ridge), go a Fair distance, 
(Which was approximately 1/3 of a mile)

In the course of teaching the principles of LaVan Martineau pertaining to what is commonly referred to as the Native American Petroglyph, many misunderstandings have come up, many questions as to different forms of hieroglyphs found here in North America regarding a relationship with the former, but are they really so different? If you do not approach this with an open mind you will receive no benefit. PROVE ME WRONG; I invite it, but don’t just throw me questions of which the answer cannot be understood if you do not understand where my answer comes from. How many times have you found yourself trying to answer some Religious question of which you know is perfectly understood by those who have read the book, but can’t seem to convey the same message with results, to someone who refuses to read the book from which the question and the answer derives? How many times have you received the answer Oh I’ve read the book with this supposing to satisfy you in why you are wrong when you know that not only have you read the book, studied it, applied the principles in the field and proved them, but have done this numerous times over the years?

Let me side step a bit... Many years ago, I was invited by an archaeologist and student which was her husband, to pay a visit to an area near Ferron Utah At the time I thought it was because they had a true interest in the hypothesis, and I suppose they may have... we traveled up the canyon a ways and they stopped and we all got out and they pointed across the river asking if I had seen the glyphs by the pine tree, yes I replied I have, she asked do you know what it means? Yes I said, it gives directions to a cave down canyon which we passed, have you been to the cave I asked? Yes she replied, looking quickly at her husband, have you? she asked... No I have not I replied... Then she asked if I had been to the panel up canyon which had a nice spiral high on the ledge and asked if I had seen it and studied it and knew what it meant... yes I said in fact it was an easy one... oh ya? she said disbelieving looking again at her husband,  what does it mean... I told her it means "don't go to the right it is a bad way, go to the left around the ledges then ascend up to an over hanging ledge in which you will find under it, a granary. I asked her if she had ever been up to it, yes still looking a bit surprised... I haven't I said.

The purpose of this part is in an effort to shed some light on the subject and clarify many of the things of which I feel I have failed to explain in previous attempts. A simple one time reading of LaVan Martineau’s book The Rocks Begin to Speak is NOT sufficient for most of its readers, many do NOT get the idea the first read. For clarification, we need to understand the terminology which I will be using so that you can understand my reasons for using different terms which have in the past been misunderstood as to what was being said.

At another time many years ago A wise but skeptical friend of mine sent me a picture of a petroglyph asking me If I knew what it meant. I told him I generally will not try to decipher a glyph by a picture alone and that I prefer to see it in person, but I would make an exception for him... I said looking at the picture that I can tell you are in a wash and to your left is a ridge in which there should be a trail going up, when it comes to a flat area, turn to the right and in a short distance you should find some ruins...  Now he knew I had never seen this place before and none of the things described were in the picture, next thing after he read my email, the phone rings, his first words was, "how the hell did you do that?" "You just described the exact circumstances to get from the glyph to some ruins high above the glyph".... what could I say?

Continuing on...

In the following I am going to attempt to talk primarily about five seemingly different types of writing forms. Also mentioning others of which some are believed to be different from the others and they are only different in application (Different Rules, if you will), and different in that they are modified in the manner of different speech. 

Many will read and read and still it never clicks. To those people, my advice with no offense intended, is to toss in the towel; you were not meant to know. We will be talking about what is primarily referred to as Native American Petroglyphs and Pictographs, including what is believed to be sub groups such as Fremont Style Anasazi Style or Vernal Style when in fact there is no style to speak of. They are the same, differing only in subject matter and in SOME cases, minor tribal differences (Application) due to perspective or manner of speech.


We will discuss what is known as Mystery Glyphs, The Lenape Wallum Olum, the Ojibwa Hieroglyphs and Egyptian and how all of them, including the Native American Petroglyphs, have a common root.

Understanding the terms used.

Symbol

The symbol was created from the motions of Hand Sign language but is not limited to; it may also be symbolic of some thing as seen by the eye in its natural appearance or its natural motion. An example might be the symbol for "wooden object" which is identical to the symbol of our alphabet the letter Y. A symbol is to express some concept, action or idea. A hieroglyph such as a Mystery Glyph, Ojibwa Glyph or an Egyptian Glyph is NOT a symbol, it IS a combination of symbols put together to create a sentence or extended meaning of the symbols themselves, NOT a phonic sound like Wallace Budge would have you believe... These symbols are of ancient origin and are most likely the very root of all Hieroglyphs. When in history, was the first time that a hand sign language was NEEDED other than the possibility that some where in history we had an overwhelming amount of people in a society that were deaf?  In ancient times, these people were generally shunned and no special consideration was given. They didn't have Hillary and Obama to look out for them. 

But seriously now... the first time a hand sign language would have come into NEED is shortly after the Confusion of Tongues, something had to be done to re-establish some form of communication and this is the very place that I believe this originated. Shortly afterwards, after many attempts to convey a message by drawing in the sand... a hand sign language was created. This was the first impulse when two people came together who did not understand each other. This would be your response, unless you are like many who just try speaking slower as if this might help. I believe the hand signing was converted to a system of symbols modeled after the already in place hand sign language. At this time it would make perfect sense to add several other independent symbols to convey any other concept, action or idea which hand sign language could not convey. For this very reason our modern day sign language for the deaf is accompanied with a sign language for the alphabet in order to spell things which cannot be relayed by sign language alone.

Near everyone is familiar with the fact that no matter what tribe was encountered when the Europeans arrived on this continent, was that most of the Indigenous regardless of where they were found, could understand each other through signing even if one was from the southern most regions of South America, and the other from the great lakes. Now, could they all understand the glyphs? Maybe.




The 3rd Panel I had ever found...
(as short as the story it tells is... it is an interesting one.)


Hieroglyph or Character

This is what is referred to as a symbol combination and/or symbol incorporation. A Hieroglyph or Character is NOT a symbol. Many would call this a symbol and it is often viewed as a symbol which they assume has a one word meaning, when in fact a Hieroglyph or Character is a combination of symbols (words) to express some Extended concept, action or idea of the symbols that make up the character. In the same way you would add to a sentence using the English words such as The Red House you have used 3 words of which house and red would represent single symbols, but if you wanted to be more descriptive you would add more words such as The Big Red House or if you wanted to expand upon this idea it may be something like The big Red House on the Hill and so on, this is exactly how symbol combinations work.

Each Hieroglyph or Character used whether it is of the Mystery Glyphs, Wallum Olum, Egyptian Glyphs or the Ojibwa Glyphs is designed to express a specific idea According to their manner of speech. This is the very reason why some of the Mystery Glyphs may not be exactly the same as the Ojibwa Glyph because a slightly different concept, action or idea is being expressed or the two are from two similar but different speaking language groups and do not share the same meaning in a specific word.

The most likely solution as to why they are and not all identical is that you are comparing apples to oranges in that you are comparing two seemingly like symbols used by both groups but you are comparing The Big Red House to The Big Round Red House or to The Big Scarlet House  or The Blue House OR, the subject of the panel is similar but different enough to warrant a different derivative word other than the assigned base meaning word for that symbol. Also, not all languages have interchanging words which perfectly describes the other.

Symbol Combinations

Another example of this would be from Tomkins' book and the Ojibwa Character that he says means Morning. You will notice that he has two other VERY similar glyphs; one meaning Noon and one meaning Evening.


Are these symbols the same? Are these symbols? No they are not symbols, they are Hieroglyphs or Characters and no, even though it is the same concept or idea showing the positioning of the sun, they are not the same because some variable in the concept is different. This is pointed out because some would say that the Ojibwa Glyphs are not exactly the same as the Mystery Glyphs or visa versa and are only similar. I would say that is because we have yet to see ALL of the possible combinations of the symbols that make them up. This would be like someone who had never seen the English language supposing that, because they had identified 250 phrases using English words, they now understood the English language. We do not have to point out the hundreds of thousands of combinations of English words to form different phrases.

The glyph we see as Morning using the symbol of Hidden or Covering as the sky and the short line placed at the suns position at the location of Morning, Noon and Evening which comes from the symbol, On Top being a symbol looking like an upside down capitol T. this is also an extension of the meaning Holding Firm or Having to do with which is a sideways capitol T. These two symbols COMBINED give us the Glyph for Morning, Noon and Evening by virtue of the positioning or placement of the upside down T.  This you will find is the same in all of the discussed writing systems differing only in a application, style of writing or none at all. In one more example in which some would say that they are similar but not identical is the symbol found in the mystery glyphs.


Are these two hieroglyphs identical? Many would say they are the same yet the answer is NO they are not, yet it would seem quite obvious that they share a common root. The biggest difference that I see is probably not what you would see. The difference which matters most to me is the lines surrounding the circle which forms the head. In the Mystery Glyph the lines touch the head and in the Ojibwa Glyph they do not, why?  I don't see "Wise Man," I see Man of God. Let’s look at a little rule I discovered many years ago through much trial and error and application of this rule. I won’t bore you with how I discovered this and further more I wouldn’t expect you to believe it. But in short the best way to explain it is by using the Gone symbol which is actually two symbols together and technically it is a Hieroglyph, Character or a combination of symbols.




Wherever movement or locater symbols are used with the line (Trail or Path) attached to another symbol; this means From and where it leads but is not attached means To.

Assuming that Tompkins was correct in the meaning that he had attributed to Wise Man, it would be most fitting in which perspective comes into play when you examine the two together meaning the Mystery Glyph and the Ojibwa Glyph. In the Ojibwa glyph, what is coming INTO the head? Well the only thing that really makes sense is some form of knowledge. So in the Mystery Glyph by the same token, what is going out (From) the head? Again it would seem that the logical explanation is again: some form of knowledge. But how do you get knowledge to go out to another with nothing but thought?  Depending upon your perspective or the manner of your speech, these two glyphs can mean the same thing or either can mean any derivative of wise man such as Prophet or Teacher, and are more than just wise men. It depends on the intended subject of the author of the panel and his perspective along with his manner of speech, etc...

Symbol Incorporation

Symbol Incorporation is very much like symbol combinations except that rather than one symbol being attached to another or being added to the overall glyph, a single symbol may take upon the characteristics of another symbol, thereby creating what might be viewed as a new symbol or character. The chart below, created by LaVan Martineau, is the best example of the differences between Symbol Combinations and Symbol Incorporations. Keep in mind that once two symbols are put together by combination or incorporation it becomes a hieroglyph or character.





The examples shown above are found on page 14 of LaVan’s book. We see in column A, the symbol combinations, and in column B, the symbols that make them up. In column C are the symbol incorporations, while in column D, the symbols that make them up. If you take a good look at any of the Glyphs whether they are Egyptian, Mystery Glyph, Ojibwa or the Wallum Olum, you will find examples of this; Column A and C are Characters NOT symbols.

Symbol base meaning

The Symbol Base Meaning is a word meaning attributed to a single symbol, but it is NOT its absolute meaning, it is general and onl;y recently assigned by LaVan Martineau or myself. Largely this exists due to the differences in Language. We may not have an exact word which describes a symbol used by those who created the symbol. Depending upon the subject of the panel, a proper or best fitting derivative word of the base meaning word must be identified and most certainly will vary from panel to panel never loosing its base meaning. An example would be in the Symbol known as a simple circle, the base meaning would be Holding, yet many meanings can be attributed to just this one symbol depending on the subject of the panel. It can mean Camp, Lake, Sky, Cave, or even infinity, anything that holds something. The word infinity is added simply because the circle is actually an extension of the symbol which carries the base meaning of Go which is just a straight line, which can also mean Trail, Path or Path of Life. By bringing the line full circle, infinity is accomplished. However, I have yet to see this symbol meaning infinity in any panel. The point is that you need to find the best word or set of words that fit the subject.

Subject

The Subject of the panel is self explanatory, it is what the panel is about, and knowing or discovering the subject can make the task of translating much easier in finding the proper derivative word of the Base Meaning. Discovering the subject can be easy or very difficult, study of the ways of the ancients is a must, their beliefs, study of the area in which the glyphs was found is often very helpful in discovering the subject, and there is another little trick as well which I will withhold at this time.




The second panel I had found in about 1988 and previously unknown and still is,
however it is badly overgrown and difficult to find, the above image is enhanced for viewing.

The Quadruped or “Goat Symbol”

Although LaVan Martineau in his book, gives what I see as a clear understandable explanation of the mysterious Goat Symbol and sometimes called Sheep Glyph, I will add but a little…

UNLESS it was actually intended to represent a particular animal, what is often referred to as, Mountain Goats, Dear or Elk has NOTHING to do with ANY animal. How do you know the difference? The Native American is very well known for their keen eye and ability to capture the majority of the details when recreating some thing, in short, they are known as some of the best artists on the planet. If it were meant to represent a specific animal, it will look like it WITHOUT the stretch of the imagination often applied.

This little critters appearance at almost every petroglyph site has caused more misunderstanding that any other glyph and because of superficial viewing, or the unwillingness to investigate, we end up with pure conjecture. An example of this might be had concerning what has been termed as the “Great Hunt Panel” due to superficial viewing and as a result of two things in the panel which some say,  “Obviously” has to do with hunting. The appearance of what seems to be a man holding a bow, and a high frequency of some animal looking like a sort of Deer, however this panel has absolutely nothing to do with the hunting of animals.


 The Great Hunt?

This fictitious animal was created for the sole purpose of conveying “Lateral Movement” and this is why it appears in high frequency world wide. In most panels it will be associated with what we have come to identify as "Locator Glyphs." For more understanding, see The Rocks Begin to Speak pg 3 and pg 47.

The Breakdown

The breakdown is exactly what it sounds like and created by myself many years ago; it is the process by which a panel is dissected into its single independent symbols in order to identify them, to give a clearer picture in order to attribute the base meanings to the many symbols. A chart is made of all the symbols found.

The best way I can think to explain the breakdown is of course demonstration of which I will give an example in the end, however, in my research I am faced often with very old hand written documents which are always in cursive. Many are tattered, torn and in shaky hand writing, I often find myself systematically segregating the many easier identifiable words, in order to discover what they may be by comparison to those which are not so obscure and compare the letters in each of them in order to find the intended often not so easy to identify word.

With the Native American Glyphs it is much like receiving an old hand written document of some foreign language using the alphabet. The difference is, In the Native Glyphs we only have part of the alphabet, with barely understood application of rules and or applicable principles. Identifying the many single symbols used, in the end makes it possible to discover the subject of the panel, but most important, the potential meaning of the panel.


Origins

I have already expressed my opinion as to when and where this all started, and this would explain why it has spread to virtually every continent of the world and seems to retain the same meaning with some slight deviations. But how did this glyph system get here to the Americas? I believe that shortly after the confusion of tongues and in about 2400 BC, a family of the descendants of Japheth left the location of the Tower Babylon which was North of the Caspian Sea, then migrated to the regions of today’s east coast China, these are the people who would eventually became the fathers and mothers of all Asian people and at this time the closest living relative would be the Altai Mongolian and on this continent after much intermixing would be the Inuit, Navajo and Hopi (but not limited to). I would bet ALL Native American people have the Haplogroups A, B, C & D in thier Mit DNA.

Not long after they arrived in the area of eastern China, a group of them broke away and sailed into their eastern sea arriving some time later at or near today’s California coast. Whether these people brought this symbol based system of hieroglyphs that we know as Native American Petroglyphs, is unknown. It does not make sense that they would bring it with them as according to what we might consider as our scriptures, they retained the original language both spoken and written and to this day, examples are found from east to west but is often suppressed. It is likely that some unknown group came to this continent at a later date, bringing it with them. One such group could have been a migration from India which resulted in a very successful colonization prior to 900 BC and who were by the way, the begining of the Mayan people. If so, they would have had a need for it to communicate with those who had come here around 2400 BC whom we presume had knowledge of it as well.

It is more likely, however, that after this people, the first Americans, had nearly annihilated themselves due to a civil war with few remaining and with this occurring about 650 BC, that another group brought this system of symbols with them with these people being of Hebrew Origin according to DNA studies, Haplogroup X and who arrived according to many sources on our eastern coast near the Delmarva Peninsula about 600 BC and at near the same time another who sailed up the Mississippi and establishing themselves. Another group documented by the Aztec with the specific date given of 635 BC, said to have landed on the northern tip of the Yucatan peninsula.


Most Archaeologists today do not recognize The Native American Petroglyph as a writing system. They see it as doodling, hunting magic or meaningless scribbling, Ironically exactly what I deem their writing as.. I’ve heard it all from their own mouths. At the same time they attribute style to them such as Fremont style, Vernal style, Barrier style and Anasazi style. This, in and of itself makes no sense. Are they saying it a Meaningless Scribbling Style? What is it they are trying to say or not say? If the scribbling conveys ANY kind of a message whatsoever, then it is a writing system.

In the first part of this little treatise I said...

"In the two following images I am going to give you the translation as simple as it needs to be, the message from the past as to what message was intended by them, and later in this progressive report, I will demonstrate a "breakdown" of the glyphs and explain why I have given the meaning I have..." 

Well that time has come and in the following I will now perform the breakdown to help you better understand this process and hopefully give you a better understanding of the Native American Petroglyphs and to better support in your mind as to the possibilities of the Native glyphs as a true written language.

In the first image below and using the breakdown, I will give explanation to a degree, I hope it is sufficient for the reader. The interpretation I gave is as follows;

"There is a tree growing upon a rock and covering it, the tree has been cut off in the middle with two remaining branches which spread wide. The rock it grows upon is a part of a cavern, All of this is hard to see."

Now of course I have added in filler words for clarity but this would be the basic translation, If I did not, it would read something like this:

"Hidden, Tree on Rock covering, cut off in middle, rock part of Cavern, right side open near end."

Even that may not be entirely accurate as the learning process never seems to end.

With this said lets look at the image below showing the breakdown of symbols perceived or viewed withing the glyph itself be it symbol combinations, symbol incorporation or what is referred to as "rock incorporation where in the features of the rock the glyphs are on, are incorporated to give added meaning. For examples of Rock Incorporation see page 201 Index of The Rocks Begin to Speak.


For a Larger Image, click the picture.


Beginning with a. we have hidden, in most cases when a symbol is located above separate from the main glyphs, it usually represents the subject OR has to do with the entire subject, in this case it does not represent the subject but is simply meaning, All of this is hard to see, THIS being the main body or subject of this panel.

b. means wooden object and in this case a tree, the symbol is incorporated into the main body of the glyph which in fact looks some what like a tree on a rock, something which I have noticed over the years is the ability of the Natives to cause the glyph in many cases to actually look like the thing they are talking about, at the same time using the symbols and combining them to say the same thing.

c. is the incorporation of, off, of the top to indicate the tree being cut off in the middle. It to being ingeniously incorporated into what would be the main body of the tree and branches.

d. evaded my understanding for some time as it seemed repetitive, however I believe it was added here to convey or clarify the message of the branches are what is covering everything and making it all hard to see or hidden of which it was indeed when we located it. It was not until the branches were pulled back that one could see the tree had been cut off.

e. is understandable enough, clarifying the tree on top of the rock, however the incorporation of f. to veer still evades my understanding as to why it was included.

g. and h. were clearly representation of the outcrop or rock in which the tree grew, and one would actually have to see for themselves the uncanny scene which has been captured in the glyph, so much so, it left no doubt.

i. Over the years I have discovered that when ever ANY line symbol makes a complete loop and coming back to itself, regardless of its shape and especially when the shape itself does not seem to match any particular known symbol, that the meaning of holding is present, and what you are looking at, is more than likely a geological feature as is the case here, and it is a beautiful rendition of the rock outcrop itself. But why is holding include?

j. may be insignificant other than without it, it would not accurately describe what was being looked for and if it had not been present and I had not found the final glyph with final instructions, I would have questioned the meaning.

k. I am uncertain as it could be open, but at the same time meaning end. I am still unclear as to what the author intended...

But, where do I look for this I thought, and why? and then I looked up and to the left...

After evaluating the previous glyph I was puzzled, I couldn't understand why these instructions were given. After following the trail or locator glyphs from the first panel now 1/2 mile away, I found my self wondering why are they're here? What is this all leading to? How do I find this tree as there are so many? Just then I looked a little closer and up and to the left, and there was the glyphs to, in part answer that question.

Ah, I thought, there is the subject and what I was looking for, and the instructions as to how to find it. I cannot explain the rush that overcomes you when you feel you understand what the author is talking about in any panel. 

Keep in mind, it seems that never is it as easy as it may seem here in this example to read the glyphs, even at this early date of my studies, it just so happens that many of these symbols I was quite familiar with, even 25 plus years ago. Even at this early point in time, I had already worn out one of LaVans books and was well into wearing out my second. Today I rarely even look at the book.

Let me reiterate the translation of this glyph as given in part one; 

There is a man made object, made to hold some thing. From this (side) or outcrop, turn left and go down. over the ledges, through the wash (Gully, Rock Incorporation)) to here. 

After a little trial and error in figuring out what was being said, I cleared my head and went over  it again carefully this time I looked in the direction intended, and spotted what I thought was the tree in question some 60 yards away. It would be another dozen or more visits to this place before I discovered the right tree intended, just 12 yards uphill. Keep in mind, at this time I had not understood exactly what was being said about the tree being cut off in the middle. This would not be understood until one day quite frustrated as I knew I was in the right place, I parted the branches of the correct tree and my jaw dropped as I realized that portion of the panel seeing it had been cut. I recall at that moment saying, "now if I could only find that last glyph that I know is here... at that moment the Swiss exchange student that was with us that day, pointed at the rock I was sitting on examining the tree and said, whats that? pointing at the very glyph I had looked for for so long.

On with the breakdown....

a. As I said in the previous breakdown in part five, when a glyph is located above and set apart from what appears to be the main glyph, it is often the subject of the panel or has to do with the subject. In this particular case, it is the subject, and the subject as best as I can put it is, A man made place (stone Box or man made Vault) containing some thing... 

The man made portion of the translation is arrived at by the incorporation of the center of the circle in being squared off, (b.) yet remaining with rounded corners. This indicates it was made for this purpose.


The remaining group of glyphs are among the first glyphs I had learned and are what we call locator glyphs. c. is the symbol in this case for turn and go down, it can by itself also mean turn and go right, but because it was attached or touching the symbol d. (Side) this brings in the meaning of From. Had it been detached as is the dot at the end of the trail symbol, with the dot, it would have read turn and go right TO this side.

The symbol e. (Steps) or the intended meaning, ledges, further clarifies the previous where in From is again intended, so at this point we have, From this side or outcrop, turn left and go down over the ledges.

f. is the only form present and used at this site of what is called Rock Incorporation and is a natural gouge in the rock and its intended incorporated meaning is that you will be crossing some form of gully, wash or the like. 

g. is a combination of two glyphs, the remainder of the glyph (line) not shown in the charts specifically with the meaning of trail or path and TO the detached (dot) symbol meaning here or in some cases one.

After all of this I know you are feeling what I did as I followed the path, what could possibly be hidden in this place and why would the Indigenous go to so much trouble to conceal it after it was marked by the cutting of the tree, presumably by Spaniards, and then re-mark the presumed same thing, in their own way to obviously conceal it from others, but yet mark it sufficiently so that it could be found by a later generation? I have an answer, and I am sorry, but I must bite my tongue... I will say however that this is NOT a burial site, or at least it was not intended to be so...

I hope this little treatise of 6 parts was enough to convince you of the probability of the Native American Glyph as having strong possibilities of being a written hieroglyphic form of communication, at least to a degree out of curiosity to choose to further investigate the Native American Petroglyph and Pictographs.

Thank You...

If you should choose to understand 
more of LaVan Maritineau's hypothesis of the Native American Glyphs as a written language, seek out a copy of his book, The Rocks Begin to Speak.





You may also learn more about it in chapter 16 of the Book Nephite North, go to books  for sale and buy it on amazon.





Monday, March 10, 2025

The Aztec Navigation Glyph

Original Post in 2015 

Formerly referred to as the water glyph and key glyph




This glyph found many years ago was first known as the Water Glyph based on the theory that it pointed out water sources.

Are we to believe that these 3 glyphs below point out the same water source they are all 3 pointing at? Are we to believe that at one time when this small basin had water in it, that the Indians were just to dammed stupid to know it was water until they examined the three glyphs and ignoring the river below? I don't think so... but believe it or not, s
ome have theorized even stranger things.



After these glyphs had the name water glyphs, the phrase of key glyph was created simply because they looked like a type of key, but more importantly it was very obvious they simply are not water glyphs.

However after investigations and study of near 150 sites scattered throughout the regions with more than 250 known sites... but for the last decade, due to extensive trial and error, study and documenting these sites, it has become clear to me and many others, that these glyphs are navigational in purpose. This hypothesis would later be confirmed by a Ute Indian who showed me in part how they were used, explaining to me, "This is how we lay out our corals, it comes from an ancient form of navigation once practiced by our ancestors, but we have forgotten how it is done." With his help and many others over the years, we believe we now understand the use of these. But now the question beckons, What are they leading to and from? The answer to this will come soon enough, but not today. In the meantime, let your imagination run away with you. But not to far, as the places and things these glyphs were left for, hundreds of years ago to lead them back to...  may be closer than you think.....


Today we call them Aztec Navigation Glyphs.

The Navigation Glyphs consist of four parts; the first main dot which we call the Sun Dot and is always at the end of the long line. The second dot often present is identified as the Venus dot, used to indicate the season of the year and which clearly shows the positioning of Venus on the horizon at sunset. The circle represents the sky or better said, the complete round of the horizon, and the long tail which represents "Path" and in this case, the path of the sun, we also refer to it as the sunset baseline. 

The ancients responsible for these glyphs knew the destructive power the sun has on the elements, especially the sandstone with standing water, and in addition to the meaning attributed, due to the standing water, the long tail also had a purpose of providing drainage to the glyph. You will notice if you have seen many of them, that they always have the long tail which slopes gradually away from the circle, with exception of those that have for whatever reason shifted for some cause. I have observed dozens where in the rock they are found in, has shifted and as a result the glyph not able to drain, and in these cases, the glyph is in very bad shape.



"The Aztec Navigation Glyph"

The Aztec Navigation Glyph is thought by some to be other things other than a water glyph used to locate water, some have suggested sacrificial blood letting altars, eagle traps and even the remains of an olive press. Most of these ideas I can see how one would come up with this but the bottom line is, none of them hold water or not ment to... Many questions need to be resolved concerning these glyphs and one in particular that I feel not many are in a position to analyze is, do they conform with LaVan Martineau’s theory? One of the above mentioned theories comes close... no wait... it doesn't... so I am going to bring clarification to them and show you what I have found they are really all about. If you are not familiar with LaVan Martineau and his book "The Rocks Begin to Speak," I highly recomend it. 


A not so typical Glyph

The glyph in the previous photo is found with two others surrounding a small occasional pool of water from rain which is most of the time, dry. Each of the 3 glyphs found at this site has its tail as we sometimes call it, pointing at the pool in three different directions. Is it possible the Natives were so stupid that they needed to climb a 1000 foot bluff leaving the creek bank they were following, to find a small pool of water that they could not be sure that it was water they were looking at until they saw the three glyphs pointing at it before they knew it was water? I don’t think so. What about the creek they were following?

If it was a sacrificial blood letting alter, some one please explain to me who it was that did Blood Letting to the tune of needing a collection system this large for its purpose? Do these people know what a blood letting ritual is? They didn't cut off their arm, leg or head for this purpose it was a simple piercing in which only enough blood was acquired to collect on a small paper like substance to be burned. The act of burning the sacrificed blood symbolized the transference of the offering to the gods via its transformation into the rising smoke. (This according to the Aztec) The frequency at some of the sites where these are found can exceed 10 glyphs within 100 yards distance. For those that still believe this was some sacrificial related thing, the Aztec sacrifices pertaining to cutting out the heart and the flaying of men did not start until long after the Aztecs had left their homeland, Aztlan, in fact near 300 years after.

These glyphs are found in a relatively small area comparatively speaking. From St. George, (some say Nevada) to Johnsons Canyon.  
Today, the furthest North and almost west location is believe it or not, near Cedar City Utah. The furthest west is located at the Littlefield I-15 Exit heading south to Las Vegas. It is suspect according to the Aztec record that the first Navigation glyph heading to the North is found on a hill 40 miles North of Mexico City, we hope someday to find someone in the area to verify it's existence.

 I myself have photographed and acquire gps locations on about 120 of the Aztec glyphs. They are always found horizontal UNLESS the rock it is found on has broken off and tilted, they are always in an elevation advantage point for viewing the horizon and when found in large groups; seem to be some what random within the confined area. They are about 4 feet in length with the often oval shape circle at about 18 to 22 inches in diameter.

The glyphs are without a doubt, Navigational in purpose but the "tail" or sunset base line, does NOT point to any intended target so to speak, in order to discover its hidden intended direction one has to learn how to Navigate the glyph, other wise, why didn't they just put an arrow on the rock with the symbol for water? Why is it an encrypted glyph as it has long been suspect? Although I have explained the way these glyphs were used and I am not shy about showing some one, I will not expand upon it here in full detail but will show much of it. But I will explain somewhat how I learned how to use them and a bit about how to use them.

In about 2001 I took a Ute friend of mine named Paul Tabbee with me to the Arizona strip to document some newly discovered Aztec glyphs. When he first laid eyes on his first Aztec glyph he remained silent. He continued this not saying a word about them the whole day after seeing near a dozen of them. On one of the last ones that day he broke his silence regarding the glyphs and said that the glyphs  reminded him of the way the Ute (Descendants of the Aztec), lay out their corals and then he explained it to me. As he drew it out in the sand he explained that this comes from an ancient form of navigation that his people use to use, but that they had forgotten how it works. His explaination drawn in the sand looked just like one of these glyphs... What he explained to me was the importance of a consistent base line that had to be present, something on the horizon that was consistent. After seeing his sketch on the ground, I knew we had it. I admit however it took me a few days to let the base line concept to sink in as to how it was applied and it wasn’t until I returned home that I figured it out.

The answer to the what is the base line question was, the Sunset. But this in and of itself was a slight problem knowing there are 3 distinct notable sunset locations, fall/spring, winter and summer, of which was intended? Now, let me back up a bit, as with all glyphs I have encountered I have discovered the key to unlocking the mystery of a given panel, was to learn the possible subject of the panel, this enables you to perform what I call a breakdown of the panel and as a result you can confirm or deny the suspect subject by attributing the correct base meaning of each symbol within the glyph. If it all comes together smoothly there is a high probability you are on the right track and if not, you best be looking for another possible subject.

Now applying the principles of LaVan Martineau and the break down process developed by myself, we can now analyze the possibility. In order to navigate using this glyph there are certain things that are needed. A Consistent base line, A Horizon, and in order to cast a shadow, we need certain positioning of the sun and a certain easily made tool to apply the principles, but how do you navigate 360 degrees by using a shadow? That will come.

Below are my base meanings attributed by myself, found to be present within the Aztec Navigation glyph, and using LaVan's theory.


Now that we have the breakdown with the base meaning, let’s add in the derivative words of the base meanings using the suspect subject of Navigation.



In this picture above we find the best derivative word for the base meaning according to the subject and the puzzle begins to unfold. The easiest way to show how this works is to simply show someone how to do it. But that’s not likely going to happen for all so in a nut shell let’s look at the following images for explanation. Each portion of the glyph which is a combination of symbols now has its dirivative word attributed, as it relates to navigation. To Learn more about symbol combinations and characteristics of Petroglyphs, SEE: The Native American Petroglyph and Pictographs.



Now that we understand the basics of this Glyph lets begin the Navigation process. In the following image we find a glyph with the fall position dot, noonday sun dot and the sunset base line carved at 218 degrees. Place a 3 foot pole in the sun dot vertical and record the shadow location, in this instant case, of 350 degrees.



Now using your own home built protractor stick using a couple of rulers with a hole drilled in them at the end and secured with a wing nut, adjust it to lay down in the sunset base line and the recorded shadow location lining it up and secure.



Then rotate the Shadow and Baseline pole so the baseline pole is pointing to the intended sunset, if the pole does not move changing the angle, the shadow pole will now be pointing in the intended direction of travel.


Now why would the Aztec assuming they are the responsible creators, encode them so that only they would understand how to navigate them?

The Aztec have had enemies since their conception and even long before they were known as such, pathways leading to things of a religious or otherwise nature may have been sacred enough to them as to not publicize where these things or places may be. It just makes sense regardless. However the question that is most pondered by myself is why are these glyphs found in such a high concentration in a relatively small geographical area comparatively speaking if navigational in purpose? While others with singular locations are commonly found at river junctions? These questions should possibly remain a mystery simply because there are some among the public that just don’t need to know.

I have known not only through reading but suspected in the past that the Aztec no doubt had a hieroglyph, or two... in which they used to navigate to and from key places, and one would no doubt be the caves in which they emerged and had lived for near 300 years after thier humiliation event causing thier expulsion from Aztlan. 

If this hypothesis were true, then it would seem that there would be a trail of these glyphs leading away from the known general area in which they are found. At this time that area would be considered as being from the east at about Johnsons Canyon which is east to Kanab, west to the area of St. George, North to either Gooseberrny plateau to the west or Kanab Canyon more so to the east and southerly I have documented them south of Colorado City as far as the Yellowstone Mesa.

What I have been on the lookout for over the years is anything stemming away from and outside of what we can only guess as the general area. The reason for this is, if these are navigational in purpose and according to the hypothesis were used to travel back and forth, then there must be a trail or even two leading away from this general area. The Yellowstone Mesa location almost insinuates this but it just isn’t far enough removed from the general area in which the majorities are found. Finding one further south from Yellowstone and isolated, would certainly add credence to one of the suspect trails leading to or away from the area.

Somewhat recently, a friend contacted me and told me of some new glyphs that had been found, and I had discovered through a report I had read that one had been found at Marble Canyon where in I would fully expect to find one, but I would not suspect any others stemming from that location with one small exception. Now if my suspicions are correct and this location at Marble canyon does exist, then I would suspect it as being an end location and thus, a trail of them must be leading to or away from this location and this is what my friend has brought to my attention.

From the Marble canyon location and about 120 miles as a crow flies, we find 3 more of these Aztec glyphs along the Little Colorado where I have suspected for a long time they would be found. Between the junction of the Little Colorado and the Colorado to Winslow Arizona and along the Colorado would be a great place to look as there is no doubt additional Glyphs in between.

I am also informed that another 40 miles to the South East from Winslow near Holbrook and along the Little Colorado is found a single Aztec Navigation Glyph. It would seem a trail is being established here. No sooner than I expanded upon this speculating as to where the possible trail may go from this southern location, another friend tells me two glyphs are found in Texas, although we do not currently know exactly where these are located, I would bet they are found along the Rio Grand at the western border of Texas.

One might wonder why 3 are found at this southern location of Winslow Arizona. It is suspect that one leads to the western trail or crossing of the Grand Canyon via Flagstaff, and one leads northward to an important feature or two near Marble Canyon or the old crossing just beyond, and the third, will instruct the traveler to the south eastern location found 40 miles away or one in between. In other words, the third is leading back to Mexico. This location of 3 is no doubt a junction of trails. I can’t wait to prove or disprove this hypothesis.













Friday, March 7, 2025

The Salt Domes of the Gulf of Mexico EXPANDED

Ye are Salt of the Earth 

I have been asked many times over the years regarding my thoughts of what I believe the Salt Domes of the Gulf of Mexico are or more specifically what the academics refer to as the Sigsbee Escarpment being the one primary feature you just can’t miss or excuse away, as there is nothing like it anywhere else in the world.

 


 

So what are the Salt Domes? Well they are the same thing as the Sigsbee Escarpment other than the Salt Domes comparatively speaking are in their infancy. But why are they here in the gulf? 

For a good laugh or eye rolling, one would do good to read what the academics claim is the reason why these unique features exist. They would have us believe that for some odd reason excessive evaporation of the ocean took place, only right there in that specific area of the gulf mind you… and caused excessive amounts of salt to drop out of the water and this is what caused the formation of these features, they also try to tie it into the Pangea/tectonic plate movement horse pucky theory implying that this some how had something to do with it. So now we are to believe that in all the world, some event took place and cause excessive evaporation in this one place in the entire world, the whole idea is for a lack of better words, one of the dumbest things I have heard coming from so called scientists. There are just some things Smithsonian cannot hide, but they can sure put these so called scientists in front of us and carefully over the years in our education system mold a majority into believing all that they say, daring not to question them. 

At this point I would encourage the reader to reflect upon or read the chapter in the book Nephite North titled “Ye are Salt of the Earth.”

Before I continue on our journey to find the cause of this strange still unexplained anomaly, let’s see if we can find out where this enormous amount of salt may have come from because what science says just plain isn’t the truth. Let’s look at the water shed area of the Mississippi river.


  

That’s a pretty big area, but even with thousands of years I just don’t think we could get enough presumed natural salt, to build these unique features. One more thing we might touch upon, what exactly is salt? I am almost afraid to read Wiki’s take on this one… but lets just say, that every living thing is composed of 72 minerals, the salt molecule is the smallest existence of these elements with out converting into a gas. If it were not for plant life, there would be nothing to convert the metals of the earth; into a smaller compound we call minerals. The salts are the smaller form of the minerals and I may be off on this just a tad… but as it relates to this article let me say, you truly are salt of the earth. If 50 men died all at once and we  threw them all in a pile, I don’t know how many years it would take but at some time in the far future, all that would be left if the pile were left undisturbed, is salt.

Reflect upon the story of Lots wife from Genesis of the Bible, and when the Lord was about to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah because of their repulsive wickedness. The Lord appealed to Abraham and told Lot, his wife and two daughters to leave and do not look back! But Lots wife just couldn’t help herself and upon turning around to look at the horrible scene, her body was instantly reduced to nothing but the salts of which we are all made up of. If you have ever wonder what became of the tens of thousands of people of Sodom and Gomorrah, they likely suffered the same fate as Lots wife, and if you want to find them, just look down steam, go no further than the dead sea. 

I wonder how many are now thinking about the Great Salt Lake and Lake Sevier… that is a bit of a story… However this may suffice for now....

I'm sure there are some of you still wondering where all that salt went, but don’t worry, it’ll come to you. Did you know that prior to the great flood, the oceans of the Earth were fresh water? Where do you suppose all of that salt came from? Where do you suppose all of that salt at the Dead Sea came from? How about the Great Salt Lake and Sevier Lake? What caused the salt domes off the Texas coast in the Gulf of Mexico? Yes we know,

"it comes from the mineral that has been washing down from the mountains for millions of years since before the ice age when dinosaurs roamed the earth and because it is a dead sea with no outlet the salts accumulate over time"… How convenient...

Did I mention I have ocean front property in Arizona? Well, it might have been in BC times. 

Every living thing on this planet has a certain identifying make up, a finger print or much like DNA, in fact DNA is made of it, it is called mineral constituents. If you were to compare the constituents of say a tree and a dog, there will be an obvious difference in the constituent volumes of the 72 minerals. However if you were to compare a dog to a deer, you may find a near match, as well as a comparison of a dog with a man. In other words, of the dirt and rocks from the mountains, if a constituent analysis were done in all drainages that come to the Great Salt Lake from the water sheds of the mountains, the parameters would never come close to matching the constituents of the human body. Now, does any one want to go and do a constituent analysis of the rivers flowing to the Great Salt Lake and compare that to the Constituents of the Great Salt Lake? No? How about the constituents of the body and the Great Salt Lake? Well I didn’t want to either, so I just simply looked up the constituents of the human body and the constituents of the Dead Sea, the Great Salt Lake and the Ocean, and it is a beautiful match.. Here…. see for yourself but remember to check it for yourself.


To clarify the quantities of minerals in testing they are separated into three groups, Major Constituents, Minor Constituents and Trace Elements.

Quantities over 100 parts per million are considered Major Constituents.

Quantities 1-100 Parts per Million are considered Minor Constituents.

Quantities less than 1 part per million are Trace Elements.


To simplify this, the constituents for Ocean, Dead Sea and Great Salt Lake are nearly identical. These are from actual Constituent Analyses of the three named.

Now before I expand upon this idea further which you are no doubt beginning to see, let’s take a look at some pretty convincing evidence to help build the case. How many battles would you think took place in the Mississippi’s drainage area over the last 4400 years since man first stepped foot on this land after the great flood? Well let’s get some idea. 

Now since the pole shift of 2000 years ago, there have been many battles between the two primary cultures that existed up until about 400 AD. The academics call them the Mississippi mound builders or more specifically the Adena (BC) and the Hopewell (AD) culture; I prefer to call them Nephites and Lamanites. There was also another culture mixed in during the first 400 years AD which are known by some as Gadianton, I like to call them the Greeks and or Romans of the Western Roman Empire. How many were killed in these battles over 4400 years? Well let’s look at some evidence.

 


The Red Line surrounds the Mississippi Water Shed

Now just to clarify, in the images above each of the smaller yellow circles you see represent by estimates due to archaeological surveys, 12,000 to 120,000 Fluted or Clovis arrowhead points, keep in mind this chart only represents Clovis and Fluted, it is said that for every Clovis point there are thousands of regular arrowhead points. Of these sites I personally believe many of these could be just good hunting grounds. But lets look at one of the larger circles which represents based on discoveries and an estimate established at 2,400,000 to over 5 million Clovis or Fluted points estimated to be in that area. Now this sounds more like a battle site to me. What I am driving at is, prior to the event 2000 years ago, many more battles took place in the Mississippi drainage area. Hundreds of thousands if not millions of men were slaughtered time after time and the most common practice in these massive wars in order to dispose of the bodies was to throw them into the rivers to be swept away to the sea. 

I would highly recommend a read of what I consider as thee most accurate plausible history of this land, being none other than the Book of Mormon. 

Alma

3:3 And now as many of the Lamanites and the Amlicites who had been slain upon the bank of the river Sidon were cast into the waters of Sidon; and behold their bones are in the depths of the sea, and they are many. 

Alma 2:34 And thus he cleared the ground, or rather the bank, which was on the west of the river Sidon, throwing the bodies of the Lamanites who had been slain into the waters of Sidon, that thereby his people might have room to cross and contend with the Lamanites and the Amlicites on the west side of the river Sidon. 

Now one more thing that would puts this more in line… the Salt domes are located at where the Mississippi river enters the ocean today, not as developed as the Escarpment, and are much younger than the larger feature found more centered and in line with the larger and presumed much more ancient formation the Sigsbee Escarpment in which in BC times the Mississippi emptied into the Gulf much further to the west and apparently was much larger at the time based upon the topography showing how vast this river was in the past especially in the days when Lake Copala eastern effluint drained into the Misouri River… SEE: Finding the Legendary Lake Copala

 


The image above shows where the Mississippi effluent was and how wide and large it was in ancient times. The red line in the above image shows where the Mississippi flows today and the approximate size. Where would you think all the dead bodies ended up and now where would you think all that salt came from? If what science says about excessive evaporation and this being where all that salt came from is true… I would like to talk to them regarding the Great Salt Lake, and the Dead Sea. Where are the salt domes in these two lakes where in the salinity can be as much as 9 times greater than the ocean? Where did all that salt come from in the Dead Sea… how about the Great Salt Lake? 

“Yea, and the city of Onihah and the inhabitants thereof, and the city of Mocum and the inhabitants thereof, and the city of Jerusalem and the inhabitants thereof; and waters have I caused to come up in the stead thereof.”

3 Nephi 9:7

SEE Article: Cottonwood Marble Tablets 

And I am not going to talk about the salt in Sevier Lake… yet… ;-)

However, SEE: Lost History of Sanpete Valley


Mathew 5: 13 Ye [truly] are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.


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