Another Spanish Cache Configuration

 Original Post February 1st 2017

Edited and Added upon

In the fall of 2016, a friend called me who was working on a remote sub station site for the local power company. He asked if I had ever seen any monuments in the area where he was working. I asked him why? And he responded telling me that from where he was standing not far from the sub station, he could see what appeared to be at least 3 monuments on the side of a small hill and one higher on another larger hill. I had my doubts not that I didn’t trust his perception; it is just that if I had a dollar for every misconception of monuments, petroglyphs and the like, I suppose I would be set for life. I ask him to take a few pictures of what he could see in the distance, and sure enough, it appeared as we had another potential monument location likely an instructional site giving directions to a place I learned of many years ago in the North West where Spaniards had been known to frequent, and in one case spent 60 years mining it, yet this is information is not publicly known.

Many years prior a friend of mine had taken me to the place in the North West to show me some monuments where his Uncle was a big rancher, from what I recall it certainly appeared Spanish expeditions had been there, but this was well over 30 years ago. Since this time there has been many indications of expeditions to the place shown on the old maps, Sierras de Oro.

When we first arrived at this new monument site, I knew if they proved to be authentic and because of their location at the edge of a great barrier, that this site was some how connected to what I knew was Sierras de Oro on the other side. On first examination of the monuments I highly suspected this site as an informational location giving instruction of some thing. At first I thought it was possibly giving instruction as to a location of a last chance spring of water for if one left this place without water, they most certainly could die of thrust if they were to continue.

Further investigations began to show that my initial suspicions were likely incorrect.

Approaching the first monument with two more in site, I could see this suddenly had the potential of a cache configuration. Triangulation is the primary reason for this suspicion; confirmation would soon come after taking all the data of documenting the site back to the computer to create the digital layout.

There are several things to do when investigating a monument, questions to resolve such as, "Is it a mining claim marker from the late 1800's or later? Is it a modern creation for what ever purpose? These questions can be answered very quickly by turning to the Crustose Lichen IF it is present.

Spanish monuments are fairly stout, unlike a well built mining claim marker which I have seen plenty and some are actually built quite well, but they are always lacking in two things, one, Crustose Lichen of significant growth, and two, rigidness. When doubt is ever in the mix, I like to give the monument a good jolt with my hands just enough to jar it, a Spanish monument will not move, maybe just a bit, a more recent monument such as a well built mining claim marker will move with even applying pressure to it as if to push it aside. There are several other things to consider as well and with all these things combined, it is possible to determine authenticity and in some case a general time frame they may have been built.

Monument # 1: Approaching monument 1, it was a simple 4 foot monument, it had no particular shape nor any indication of pointers or site windows, this to me was an indication of its purpose of  a specific point in a configuration layout, but for what? Had this monument been found all by itself I may not have given it to much of my time. Crustose Lichen spores present gave indications of approximately 300 years since the monuments were built, this incited even more enthusiasm and excitement. (UPDATE: Monument # 1 on a second visit it was discovered to be a turtle monument of which the head points precisely to monument # 4 which could not yet be seen).

(Note: A "turtle Monument" IS NOT a single rock of any size that just happens to appear to look like a turtle using imaginative skills, it is a literal construction of rocks to form a column or well shaped pile of rocks and not necessarily intended to look like a turtle. An added head and tail to ANY presumed Spanish constructed monument is what makes it a "Turtle Monument." A "cache turtle" is very similar.)

Each presumed cache site will use different variations of triangulation and the use of turtles, this tells a tale of who the builder may have been, whether it was a Royal funded expedition or privateers. 

Monument #1

300 plus years of Crustose Lichen

Moving on to Monument # 2 above at 48 yards away or 52 Varas, I find the same in simplicity, however this monument is about 5 feet tall but near the top of it is what appears to be a possible pointer. Upon looking at this and lining it up with the horizon to which it points, another monument, approximately one mile away, is spotted that is nearly undetectable with the naked eye, but once you see it, it seems to stand out to its surroundings. This sited monument is # 5 to the west and on top of a much larger hill. Although the pointer points to this hill, it was clear it was pointing to a location not far down the hill or south of the monument that could be seen one mile away, we would find out later why. 

Monument 2 with # 3 in the background

Continuing to Monument # 3, I find a near 6 foot monument much like the previous with also a suspect pointer, it is pointing to the exact same location mentioned prior, however this monument had one thing that really stood out, and that is what seems to be for no reason at all, placed on top is a very square rock. At this point the first thing that came to mind is, in the Spanish symbolism, the square is said the represent two things, one is Cache, the other is 90 degrees. From this # 3 monument to what I will later conclude is the actual cache site at Monument 4 and 5, is the exact opposite according to the compass of 90 degrees at 270 degrees. The other thing I took notice of because it exists for no apparent reason was the increase in height from monument to monument, 4 foot, 5 foot and 6 foot, having 3 heights present. This to me, was only significant simply because of my studies and others who have constantly made notations of the Spanish doing things in 3’s or 3 times in addition to its application in triangulation. In addition to this notation of 3's, and you will want to remember this, Let this be a clue, there is a way to validate your findings or conclusions of triangulation in EVERY valid Spanish Cache site, if it is not present, you have either made a mistake, or it is NOT a Spanish Cache Location, This last piece of information I will keep to myself, this way, you will need me. ;-) Sorry...

Monument # 3

At this point it seemed to me the obvious next course of action was to travel to the monument site we could see one mile away. Later in creating the digital layout I would notice the angle used from monument to monument and as a result I could not help but notice the distance from monument to monument within each of the two separate sites.

Approaching the location of Monument # 5 traveling up the hill, another monument prior comes into view, this would be monument # 4 and it just so happened to be in the very location the pointers of #1, #2 and #3 were pointing, but because of the smaller size of approximately 4 feet and near identical with monument # 1, and having been camouflaged from view from the other hill, we could not see it from the previous site. 

Monument # 4

Looking uphill I notice by compass the degrees from # 4 to 5, is the same as from the previous site #1 to 2. Why this has my attention would take some time to explain as to why this is important but suffice it to say it is a sure indication that not only are you on the right track, but it is a likely verification of a Cache site.

Later in drafting the digital layout it is also observed that the 1^st site of # 1, 2, and 3 is seemingly a template or map so to speak of the 2^nd site on the larger hill, with this suspicion, I checked the distances again between #1 and 2 being 48 yards, observation of site 1’s seeming counter part (2^nd site Larger Hill), I see by visual estimation the distance between # 4 and 5 appeared to be 3 times longer, could it be? Sure enough, the distance was near exactly 3 times the length.

Monument # 5 was a stout and 6 foot tall monument, it had no indication of site windows, pointers or anything unusual other than it had in the base of it what I call a mail box and it seemed to fulfill its purpose of representation of a given point in triangulation of a cache layout just as the previous # 4 seemed and serving as an Icon so to speak, to be seen from a far distance. If this second site and seeming reconstructed representation of its template site was in fact the results of the template X 3… then where was the 3^rd missing # 6 monument? That wasn’t to difficult to answer as there is not a one soul who would place a monument right on top of an intended cache, yet there are some who have thought this and destroyed the monuments just to find how dumb their conclusion was.. 

In creating the digital layout it became very clear the intent of monument # 3. Using this 1^st site as a template, it would seem your job was to figure out that it was a template and with two monuments already positioned in its counterpart on the larger hill, it was up to the finder to realize, the objective is to plot the cache location which would ultimately be the missing # 6 location. This would represent the location in the template of # 3, the one with the implicating square rock on top. This # 6 position can easily be established using the same compass bearings found in the template site, and 3 X’s the distances in it. Could it really be that easy? It never is....

Monument # 5 with # 4 in the background slightly and to the left side

I have found over the years at 5 other similar sites, the same basic principles only differing by what would seem to be the expedition leaders personal preference and depth of encryption, it would seem the more important the site, the more encryption is included, however this is speculative and has yet to be proven. It is fair to say that the 5 mentioned sites must still be concidered as unresolved simply because they remain unopened for various reasons. Until recently I have not had cause to proceed any further with these sites. Perhaps it is time? Of all the monuments at this site, not one, is what I would call a turtle monument of which I fully expected to find, why was it not used in this case? (UPDATE: On the second trip it was discovered that monument # 1 is indeed a turtle monument of which the head points to monument # 4)

This particular site was educating to say the least, but a far cry from the most encrypted site found years prior, using a combination of all the geometric principles of navigation and triangulation, and taken me near 10 years to unravel, the site which is the subject herein, took less than 30 minutes to resolve once the digital layout was complete, but as I said, it must be concidered still as unresolved.

Since the discovery of this site, only one attempt has been made to discover the intended target, it was just a whim but made sense at the time. Since that time I have dropped the ball on this one for many ubnrelated reasons. I think I am ready to spend some more time with it but now we are facing winter once again...

  Smaller Hill, template site

Larger Hill, Cache Layout

The mining area that this suspect cache came from is likely some 70 miles away, and a suspect cache remains there as well... "125 cargas of silver, 30 cargas of gold, one cannon, arqubuses, lead and armour" why would they leave a cache 70 miles into their trip back to Santa Fe? I can think of a few possabilities...  It is estimated that this occured some time between the early 1600's and early 1700's.

Seems easy doesn't it? It is never easy, there is always something you fail to see or notice... and always it seems, there is a need for technical equipment.

If I were to offer this site to you, with strings attached of course... what questions would you have? what expectations would you have? What expectations should I have? 

PS... Concerning my last request for donations, I wish to thank those who contributed... all two of you, it is greatly appreciated and will be remembered... ;-)

I am planning a private meeting with my freinds concerning this site, I can't believe I dropped the ball on this one, time to pick it back up... I am looking to raise about $2 to $3000 to get me through this winter, I have a good shot at a job prospect come January as the current job just isn't cutting it, keeping fingers crossed... wish me luck...

The Peralta Stones Fact or Fiction

 Originally Posted August 2022

The Likely Reality

Sometimes the treasure story doesn’t end with the desired results aside from the thrill of the hunt, unless of course you just keep buying the books sucking in new theories to keep the dream alive, but knowing the truth based on the facts might just eliminate one more story.

Although I am not in the habit of chasing after published stories I must admit when I first heard of the Peralta Stones, I was intrigued, curiosity wouldn’t leave me alone. After reading the hoards of stories that had been written about them, the many theories which I don’t understand how pray tell some people come up with these things, I decided to take a look at the stones myself and give the stones some serious consideration. 

 

The Peralta Stones

Now keep in mind, I have no doubt as to the authenticity of the stones which so many are anxious to discredit rather than try to prove them. It is so much easier to dismiss that which the lazy mind can’t figure out as a hoax isn’t it… 

I believe the stones are real for many reasons which I am not going to haggle about, and the primary reason is, Common Sense, something that the lust for gold just seems to replace. Another is the Peralta story which many seem to misunderstand concerning the lawsuits and court battles regarding one of the Peralta Land Grants which of course ended with cries of hoax and deceit in an effort to cast doubt. My position? The Peralta Claims were legitimate. However the primary reasons why I believe the stones were legitimate is supporting evidence that existed long before the stones were known, a story that has yet to be told and will not be told today in its entirety, however I will give some. 

I may also make note at this point that I have not the slightest idea where in anyone can tie the Lost Dutchman story to the Peralta stones or why it ever was? Do we suppose that because the stones were found at the foot of the mountains that the Dutchman supposedly came out of that this somehow makes the two synonymous? If some wish to go chase the Lost Dutchman mine based on the few details that were actually given, I am sure I won’t be the first to step aside and let them have at it. With this said also keep in mind that my take on this is also just a theory, and by the way, I can’t understand why or how treasure has ever been associated with the stones, I see no indication of treasure… Implications maybe. As I recall, and I don’ know how one comes up with this, but one story even places the location of the Peralta Stones Map in Johnson’s canyon east of Kanab? Is the Stone map Treasure specific? Not likely, but directions to a substantial Silver mine? Yes.

The point in mentioning this, although I don’t see it, is we should not suppose the stone map as relating to the area they were found, for all we know; the two obvious drainages on the stone map could be two drainages in Mexico, but it isn’t. 

However…Let’s look at the Peralta stones and keep it as simple as it really needs to be.  The Stone were reportedly found between Gold Canyon and Gold Camp along the Highway to Florence Junction to Apache Junction, I have no problem with this whatsoever or the claims made by the finder. I have heard and read many reasons as to why the stones were found where they were, personally, I couldn’t care less, the point is, they were found, anything is possible as to how they ended up there… 

The first thing I am going to prove or disprove TO MYSELF is the obvious drainages on the map with the assumption that the stones were actually found in the area it applies to. Although I have had a hard time wondering how anyone assumes the upper river shown on the Horse Stone and the Heart map is the Salt River, I guess I can slightly see the possibility?..  no wait… I’m sorry, I can’t. 

The top drainage shown on the maps is in my mind, clearly Queens Creek NOT the Salt River, if one would take the time to highlight the 3 rivers in question on Google Earth or even a 30 minute USGS map it becomes very apparent as to which two rivers were intended. The visual evidence weighs heavily in favor of the hypothesis. If the following is true, the whole story has been misapplied and the focus is in the wrong mountains!

 

 

The 3 possible drainage’s of the Peralta Stones 

Now like I said, I have no idea how the stones got to where they were found, but regardless of how they got there it would seem plausible to me that they were no longer needed and discarded. The Peralta Stone Map was not a map to a Treasure, it was documentation of one of the Peralta family Mines Likely a Kings Mine dedicated to Queen Isabella II. The next image should sum it up and I will leave it to the reader to weigh the common sense, and I could be easily mistaken.

 

Overlay of Peralta stone map

 

Lets dive into this just a bit further…

I will not say what my conclusions regarding the Reavis Peralta Land Grant trials is, but I will say I smell a rat, although Reavis may have been a rat, there was a whole lot of deceiving, slandering, forging and a lot of fabrication of evidence going on by the opposing party whom we might refer to but wrongfully, as our wonderful trustworthy Government. 

Just a few years after Reavis’s claims, and unknown to most and never was there a connection made regarding the Peralta's, a man shows up on the scene in Arizona with what might appear as just dumb luck.

James DeNoon Reymert a Nordic born man who later moved to Scotland where his mother was born as Jeanette Sinclair, interesting name… After a life of Law, Politics and other ventures none of which was mining, Reymert ended up in New York but supposedly due to health issues, I suspect otherwise, it is said he moved to a ranch located in the Biobio River area near Mulchen Chili for 3 years, I wonder whose ranch it was?...   Now most would just read on past this, but not us! Oh no no no… The Peralta family name has been in Mulchen Chili in the Biobio Providence since 1650 and is STILL today a prominent name in Mulchen. 

Example of 5 of two dozen names found in Biobio

My question is, did Mr. DeNoon know where and why he was going before he went?... I’m sure it is all coincident as much as the following. Now after his 3 year sabbatical in Chili, DeNoon returns to America, but surprisingly not to New York or Wisconsin where he frequented previously. No no, he lands in San Francisco and heads straight to Arizona, perhaps due to health issues… right.... and according to WIKI, with no mention of a miraculous discovery, he simply organizes the Reymert Mining Company… Why?... what a strange thing for someone to do with no mining experience or interests… What? He just got lucky by traveling out to the hills one day and said to himself, hmm, by God, I think I will organize a mining company… But it gets better, Mr. DeNoon just happens to organize this mining company at a location that turns out to be one of the larger silver strikes in Arizona, and it just happens to be at the Exact spot indicated on the Peralta stone map if you interpret the map correctly according to using the correct intended drainages…

My guess would be… The Peralta stones if found at the claimed location of “near Apache Junction” were not where some poor Spanish soul lost the stone maps, but where DeNoon cast them away no longer needing them after receiving them from the Peralta family personally and after coming to a business arrangement with them and re-locating the mines.. I would love to see DeNoon’s financial records of the day.

A partial point to this article is to show you that there is always another perspective, whether right or wrong remains to be seen but that is for you to decide, whether you have done your homework or not. Reason every little detail, question all things, and remember these words, It is what it is. Knowing when to accept defeat however, is knowing never to accept it.